310Guy

Sorry if this has been asked, but what about a forum devoted to automatics?

Just a thought...

310Guy

I guess my request has been denied..

Hell, I'd even offer to moderate the "auto" forum.

mikeb

I'm with you
but of course I am
I have a auto

Positron

There are quite a few threads on autos, it might be convenient to get them grouped together. (I have an auto too.) How does it happen? Rising ground swell of support from auto drivers?

mm

my10ae

Count me in!!

Holly

Auto Here!

310Guy

Well moderating team???

Toadman

Other than troubleshooting can you find another car forum that has separate manual and automatic forums, and what specific topics require one?

310Guy

Don't we want to be leaders and not followers???

Sputnik

I realize that that is half tongue-in-cheek (at least that's how I took it), but let me put it another way: We have looked at this in the past, and we looked at it again, and we have not found enough traffic to warrant a separate sub-forum for automatics. But we also realize that we don't know everything, and are capable of missing some things.

So, what we need is if someone does have a significant list of threads on this forum that would be put in a separate automatic section, please point them out (if you are not sure whether your list is "significant", point it out anyway). If someone has seen where another forum has included a separate automatic section (other than troubleshooting), please point it out, because they might be onto something that we might be able to make work here too.

We hesitate to create a separate forum if we don't think it will have enough traffic (there are exceptions, of course), due to what we have seen here and in other forums where we have experience moderating. The problem is if there isn't enough content, fewer and fewer people will bother to look in that forum. When the occasional automatic related question is posted in that section (or is moved there by a moderator), very few people see it, and the chances of an issue being resolved (or questions answered, or whatever) are much less. Then some people get exasperated due to the lack of response, put their automatic related questions in the main forum anyway, and complain when they are moved to the automatic section. And it is understandable that they get frustrated. We have seen it happen like this several times, on several forums.

So what it boils down to is that we realize that automatic owners are a minority on a sports car enthusiast forum, so we don't want to make it harder for them to be a part of the collaboration by shuffling those topics off into a "dark corner full of cobwebs". If we feel we can keep enough traffic in that forum to keep it from becoming "orphaned", we'll do it. If we see a way that another forum was able to do so, please point it out so that we can find a way to make it work. But we don't want to make things worse.

---jps

Omicron

In other words, if one of you auto tranny guys compiles a list of all the threads out there about A/Ts, it'll be good ammunition to justify it.

310Guy

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...highlight=auto

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...highlight=auto

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...highlight=auto

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...highlight=auto

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...highlight=auto

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...highlight=auto

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...highlight=auto

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...highlight=auto

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...highlight=auto

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...highlight=auto

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...highlight=auto

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...highlight=auto

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...highlight=auto

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...highlight=auto

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...ight=automatic

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...ight=automatic

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...ight=automatic

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...ight=automatic

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...ight=automatic

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...ight=automatic

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...ight=automatic

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...ight=automatic

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...ight=automatic

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...ight=automatic

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...ight=automatic

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...ight=automatic


I also think more auto members will post experiences with their car in this forum. The "manual" guys can be dicks at times in the general forum(s)...

Sputnik

Thank you for taking the time to look for those threads. I looked through each of them, and the thing about that list is that there is only 26 threads in the last six months, and five of those (2,6,9,11, & 15) might have been moved to another section like tech or lounge (depending on where the line would have been drawn, of course). Even including those which may have been moved, the default view is to show threads which have been posted to within the last 5 days, so even if all of those threads were in an automatic section, it would show up empty today. Only seven or eight of those threads were even posted to in the month of February.

In comparison, the lowest visited regional forum (Mountain) had twice as many active threads in February, and more than twice as much traffic. It is only kept separate because that area just doesn't fit well in other regions, it's not separate due to traffic alone. It still might be a candidate to be merged with another region somewhere down the line.

It's just not nearly enough to warrant it's own section on traffic alone.

---jps

mikeb

nice effort 310 guy

310Guy

rodmeister

We might get more AT threads if we had our own forum. If you examine AT threads, expecially those related to performance and performance enhancement, you'll see the snide, snickering remarks made by a few bad MT posters. Who wants to be humiliated for owning an AT? I own one because of a minor health problem that makes the MT difficult to drive. Others have lifestyle issues that makes the AT the better choice.

Why not experiment? You can always discontinue an AT forum if the traffic is insufficient. A scientist once said: "An experiment is worth a thousand expert opinions."

Mugatu

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GotZoom

I don't know if I want dedicated forum or not. I know there is a thread out there that is "Autos only" or something like that.

I guess my question would be is what is the criteria in the mods eyes to warrant a dedicated forum?

I see the point of not having one as that there isn't really any "techincal" issue that pertains only to autos.

On the other hand, if it doesn't require extra "work" to create and maintain, what is the harm?

6 of one, half dozen of the other......

rodmeister

My point is to avoid harrassment like one of the previous posts.

Ajax

sounds like a pretty good idea.
as much as i love my manual, there are quite a few people who buy autos and there just isnt enough posting about them. lotsa people get abused when they say they have an auto. Heck, even the texas guys do it. It's all about auto bashing here in texas. I'm so glad I bought a manual, but hey, to each their own.

canaryrx8

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I have an auto, and I'm in Texas, plus it's lightning yellow, call me a glutton for punishment I guess :D maybe we don't need our own gig, just harsher standards in the "auto only" threads, I've never seen any thread started by a "manual guy" where a bunch of auto owners went in and caused grief. I still don't get it personally, why all the fusss? I know it's an age old debate, but it's really about preference, health, and economical circumstances. I hope these guys don't go around bashing people who can't walk, because one of them (if not more) probably drive an auto, does that make them losers too or whatever? I love my car, auto and all, and I'm just grateful I have something that nice to drive. Life is too short to argue over preferences etc. (to argue period really) and it is an 8 after all, 6 spd or 4, I'm glad they gave us a choice

mr2000x

To give us a dedicated forum we must have sub forums in order to be able to relate to a specific field therefore having some control and communication amongst us. But if their going to do that, it would require all the current fields that already exist, to be specifically directed towards autos and i don't see or even think that's such a great idea. Simply beacause there may be input from manual drivers that relate to a specific field or problem that may also be beneficial to us and vice versa.

I did start a thread in order to devote it to autos...

https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-specific-performance-mods-97/rx8-4at-owners-only-46710/


....where one could discuss anything related to an auto, but again it is hard to keep it going because of silly debates with manual drivers who insist on disrupting our progress.

This wouldn't happen ofcourse if the moderators would be bothered to actually moderate, perhaps by kindly sending a request to the infringers to refrain with posts that clearly as manual drivers do not concern them. But i'm sure if they did, it would start a war in here. Hence why they haven't already done that. (Thought i'd add that last sentence in order not to be banned from the site or to be misunderstood)

This clearly comes down to the stupidity of some members. I say if u wanted a car with loads of power,torque and speed you shouln't of bought the rx8. If you wanted a new car that looks great and drives well and has 'the buzz' around it, something to be experimented on then you made the right choice. Clearly here the battle is not manual versus auto, it's i'm a manual driver that wished i had more speed and power but at least im not stupid and did not buy an auto with less gears and less speed - i know, i'll try to intimidate those auto guys, that'll make me feel better! Like little kids my ones better than yours. It's the same 4ucking car! We own them to stand out and be different, to be alienated, a group within a group of metal coffins everywhere, we're different, we own the mazda rx8 and we love it!

We're all part of a big group of people that own the same car with different specs, that's it, nothing more or less.

BlueEyes

Well, they should have :p
haha
just kidding people.

my10ae

AMEN my brutha!! Considering I started the Auto CZ thread, lets start up a dedicated auto forum for those folks.

Who's with me? :D

rodmeister

I've avoided posting AT related material more than a dozen times because I wasn't in the mood to be harassed or ridiculed. The intimidation of AT owners is a loss to this web site. The sole reason for my requesting our own sub-forum is to avoid nasty MT owner comments. I see two solutions: 1. Make harassment of AT owners "illegal" at this web site, but that would stifle free-speech and prevent good-natured ribbing of AT owners. I have no problem with clever, unhostile teasing, but that would burden the moderator, having to discriminate between good and bad comments. 2. Give us our own subforum. It's not a perfect solution, but might cut back on unwanted comments. Why would an MT owner go into a subforum not pertinent to them just to harass? Yes, I know some will go to the trouble to denigrate AT owners in their own forum, but at least we will have the support of like-minded people in our "AT ghetto." The moderator could move any thread that he thought was relavent to all, this answers the problem of AT owners posting a question of interest of all RX-8 members.