San Bernardino meet auto Cross thread.
Originally Posted by ULLLOSE
STU
If you are going to run that big nasty stager in you tires size I would suggest a bigger rear swaybar, that will help your car turn.
If you are going to run that big nasty stager in you tires size I would suggest a bigger rear swaybar, that will help your car turn.
Originally Posted by SnowFl8k
Can't Xrider be in BSP as well? he doesn't have any body work....
Originally Posted by ULLLOSE
Sure, but as long as he is on street tires he should run STU.
Originally Posted by SnowFl8k
Either way he is going to have his *** handed to him...just figured a class where it is still POSSIBLE to run race tires would be better? (not that he is bad - the STU class is just rediculously off balance for the 8 - race tires in BSP help ALOT as Casey the man has shown us)
Originally Posted by kwescott
The springs take you out of B'stock. You can only change the struts out...not springs. Tires have to be stock size...not stock rims, just stock sizing.
You could race with me in STU and run on the tires you have, or race in BSP with Casey on the tires you have, or with race tires.
If you keep Erica's rims, and want to exchange your springs for my stock springs (which are in the garage), you could race B-stock. Oh, so many options grasshopper.
You could race with me in STU and run on the tires you have, or race in BSP with Casey on the tires you have, or with race tires.
If you keep Erica's rims, and want to exchange your springs for my stock springs (which are in the garage), you could race B-stock. Oh, so many options grasshopper.

i just wanted to know what class i would be starting off in.
Last edited by xrider01; Apr 26, 2006 at 11:58 PM.
Originally Posted by kwescott
Tires have to be stock size...not stock rims, just stock sizing.


Last edited by ULLLOSE; Apr 26, 2006 at 11:58 PM.
Keith, get some good tires and have ulllose co-drive in STU with you at event. That would be a very interesting experiment to see where the car stands.
I was gonna say something about me trying an event in STU, then I looked at Sunday's SD results and saw that the STU guys pWn3d my ***.
I was gonna say something about me trying an event in STU, then I looked at Sunday's SD results and saw that the STU guys pWn3d my ***.
Last edited by mp5; Apr 27, 2006 at 12:17 AM.
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Originally Posted by ULLLOSE
You planning on taking off your whole body kit? It is not just your sides that take you out of BSP. If you want to run race tires with your kit it is Street Mod for you.
.I'm looking at getting those SSR wheels Lesper4 posted the thread on. It looks like they may come with 245 series tires, whichmay be an improvement over stock. I know that a really good setup would be 265 or larger. It would be impressive to show up with some wide rubber.
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Originally Posted by mp5
Keith, get some good tires and have ulllose co-drive in STU with you at event. That would be a very interesting experiment to see where the car stands.
I was gonna say something about me trying an event in STU, then I looked at Sunday's SD results and saw that the STU guys pWn3d my ***.
I was gonna say something about me trying an event in STU, then I looked at Sunday's SD results and saw that the STU guys pWn3d my ***.

I would be interested to hear you, or Jason I's feedback on the MS setup.
Originally Posted by kwescott
If I can get those SSR wheels and some good tires...I would definately come down to a San Diego event, or practice event and have Jason drive the car. See what he thinks about it. I fear that it is just going to be a heavy beast. The body kit is nice, and looks good in pics, but does nothing for weight savings or anything else for that matter.
I would be interested to hear you, or Jason I's feedback on the MS setup.
I would be interested to hear you, or Jason I's feedback on the MS setup.
I like the MazdaSpeed parts, that kit was the T2 trunk kit for the road racers and it worked great. The only part I don't like is the fact that you can not corner weight the car as you do not have adjustable spring perches. Also for autox the MS shock is a bit soft on rebound.
Don't forget about an alignment.
Your car should weigh less than any of the other cars in STU. If you want to save some weight a set of race seat would help.
Last edited by ULLLOSE; Apr 27, 2006 at 11:55 AM.
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thank you Jason...you always put things in perspective. It is nice to know that I would have greater options with the Enkeis. I remember you putting the link up ealier. I'll look for it again and check out the pricing.
Excuse my ignorance, are the 285 Kuhmo V710's a race or street tire? I would assume race tire since you referred to it for racing in BSP and SM.
What race tire are you, Jason, and Casey running? These fit the 18x8 rim all three of you are running, right?
the 275 Falkens would be huge, front & back? Wow. Which Falken Tire (Azenis?).
Excuse my ignorance, are the 285 Kuhmo V710's a race or street tire? I would assume race tire since you referred to it for racing in BSP and SM.
What race tire are you, Jason, and Casey running? These fit the 18x8 rim all three of you are running, right?
the 275 Falkens would be huge, front & back? Wow. Which Falken Tire (Azenis?).
Originally Posted by kwescott
thank you Jason...you always put things in perspective. It is nice to know that I would have greater options with the Enkeis. I remember you putting the link up ealier. I'll look for it again and check out the pricing.
Excuse my ignorance, are the 285 Kuhmo V710's a race or street tire? I would assume race tire since you referred to it for racing in BSP and SM.
What race tire are you, Jason, and Casey running? These fit the 18x8 rim all three of you are running, right?
the 275 Falkens would be huge, front & back? Wow. Which Falken Tire (Azenis?).
Excuse my ignorance, are the 285 Kuhmo V710's a race or street tire? I would assume race tire since you referred to it for racing in BSP and SM.
What race tire are you, Jason, and Casey running? These fit the 18x8 rim all three of you are running, right?
the 275 Falkens would be huge, front & back? Wow. Which Falken Tire (Azenis?).
http://www.good-win-racing.com/mazda...ml?id=iKaiXhjH
These are not the only wheels around, just the lightest. They might still be on backorder so you might want to get in line. The Tirerack and others also have some wheels that will work, the key is 9" minimum width is what you must have to make the big tires work 100%.
The Kumho V710 is a DOT race tire, legal for stock, SP and SM. Casey and I are on 245-35-18s. The 285-30-18 would be my choice for SP or SM on a 9-10" wheel.
Up to a 285 will fit the stock fenders on the RX8 so the 275 falken and 265 Yoko are no problem.
And yes you want the same size all the way around, stagger is for car shows.
p.s. these guys: http://www.autornd.com/catalog/ who are a forum vendor say they can get the 18X9.5 RPF1 also.
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I am REALLY interested in getting a set of Enikei 17x9.5's and a set of 275-40-17's. much wider, and smaller diamiter. Just wish I hade the money to do it. :/ looks like it would cost just over $2100 to get it all.
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oh yeah, and to cmment on the BSP cars, and the STU cars. I agree that I have simply gotten lucky with who shows up. the competition has not really been all that tough, untill a vette running 335's shows up to really show me how far behind I really am. I am thinking the 17" 275's would help alot!
hell this weekend I was the only car there on slicks. (granted the other cars were on some serious street tires running 275's)
hell this weekend I was the only car there on slicks. (granted the other cars were on some serious street tires running 275's)
Originally Posted by speeddemon32
I am REALLY interested in getting a set of Enikei 17x9.5's and a set of 275-40-17's. much wider, and smaller diamiter. Just wish I hade the money to do it. :/ looks like it would cost just over $2100 to get it all. 

The 17s are taller than your current autox setup, the 245-35-18 is the same height as the 285-30-18.
Tire Size Sidewall Diameter Circumference Rev/Mile Difference
225/45-18 4.0 in. 25.97 in. 81.59 in. 777 0.0% stock
275/40-17 4.3 in. 25.66 in. 80.62 in. 786 -1.2%
285/30-18 3.4 in. 24.73 in. 77.70 in. 815 -4.8%
245/35-18 3.4 in. 24.75 in. 77.76 in. 815 -4.7% current setup
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............... true, true.
damn, and that was the cheaper setup of them all to. the 17's are a fairly big price differance. (wheels and tires)
do they even make those enkeis in 18x9.5? think they will even fit with the car being lowered?
EDIT: thanks for shooting my hopes down.
he he
damn, and that was the cheaper setup of them all to. the 17's are a fairly big price differance. (wheels and tires)
do they even make those enkeis in 18x9.5? think they will even fit with the car being lowered?
EDIT: thanks for shooting my hopes down.
he he
Originally Posted by speeddemon32
............... true, true.
damn, and that was the cheaper setup of them all to. the 17's are a fairly big price differance. (wheels and tires)
do they even make those enkeis in 18x9.5? think they will even fit with the car being lowered?
EDIT: thanks for shooting my hopes down.
he he
damn, and that was the cheaper setup of them all to. the 17's are a fairly big price differance. (wheels and tires)
do they even make those enkeis in 18x9.5? think they will even fit with the car being lowered?
EDIT: thanks for shooting my hopes down.
he heThey have them on lowered cars, no problem.
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So, if we are looking at STU, are we thinking the
Falken 615 Rts in 275/35/18?
I'm calling the company I purchased my Volks. They were able to beat some good prices and had quick access to most wheels. They are checking with Enkei on availability and pricing.
Falken 615 Rts in 275/35/18?
I'm calling the company I purchased my Volks. They were able to beat some good prices and had quick access to most wheels. They are checking with Enkei on availability and pricing.
Originally Posted by kwescott
So, if we are looking at STU, are we thinking the
Falken 615 Rts in 275/35/18?
I'm calling the company I purchased my Volks. They were able to beat some good prices and had quick access to most wheels. They are checking with Enkei on availability and pricing.
Falken 615 Rts in 275/35/18?
I'm calling the company I purchased my Volks. They were able to beat some good prices and had quick access to most wheels. They are checking with Enkei on availability and pricing.
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my guy said he could get the 18x9.5 in a 38 offset. $355 for silver or gold, both were same pricing. He quoted me $230 (each) for tires.
Here are some pics to spice up this page.
Here are some pics to spice up this page.
Originally Posted by kwescott
my guy said he could get the 18x9.5 in a 38 offset. $355 for silver or gold, both were same pricing. He quoted me $230 (each) for tires.
Here are some pics to spice up this page.
Here are some pics to spice up this page.

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I'm waiting on another quote for tires. I'm trying to get them for a significant discount. Then I can place my order. The guy selling the SSR's has found a buyer who is willing to pay what he is asking, so they are out of consideration. I was thinking of getting them without tires, and then mounting Falkens. Oh well, back to the drawing board.
I know you guys love autoX so GT Live is having a AutoX here's the link http://www.gtlivetour.com/events/att/auto-x.html
it's on May 13th!
it's on May 13th!
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Enkei rim update. Goodwin Racing says they do not have any more of these wheels, and that they are the only US distributer for the 18x9.5 w/45 offset sizing. Next shipment is still two-three months away.
Looks like I may be racing with my stock rims/tires in STU for a bit longer.
Looks like I may be racing with my stock rims/tires in STU for a bit longer.



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