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Old Sep 4, 2004 | 01:32 PM
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I will be eager to see your car with the MS body kit. My car has the Mazda accessory spoiler as well and I have not seen a MS Body kit with the Mazda spoiler.. only with the MS spoiler.

My next purchase will probably be brakes though since I am going out to WSIR on the 12th

I already pounded them at CA Speedway and quite honestly, I am surprised they lasted this long...

I was hoping to get the front/rear body kit next, but my brakes purchase will probably have to come next...

still deciding between the Brembos and Stop Tech though... Rrrr.. We'll see..
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Old Sep 4, 2004 | 02:01 PM
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I will upload pics when my car is ready, they are going to install the MS Body kit on thursday.... I tell you dude, brembo is superior.... I race car and talked to the guys that were using Stop Tech in American Le Mans series, very good brakes, but they told me they use them because of sponsorship. If they had the choice they would choose either brembo or AP. For sure Brembo is more expensive, but you are buying BRAKES! I think the difference (around $700) is worth it, you won't regret it.
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Old Sep 4, 2004 | 03:08 PM
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Lschiavo,

How much did you pay for those? And where did you buy them?

Is that the Sport package, or the GT package?

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Old Sep 4, 2004 | 03:09 PM
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oops, I see from the pic the rear is stock.

Are you going to upgrade the rear?
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Old Sep 4, 2004 | 04:36 PM
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I paid $2,500 for them.They are the GT package. I bought them from speedware motorsports in Seattle.
If you decide to buy them I will give you a contact number. He shipped it to me here in Canada. No kits for the rear i think, not sure. However if you got the frot kit you dont need anything else.
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Old Sep 5, 2004 | 03:23 PM
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Big meat is right. Red on a black car.
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Old Sep 5, 2004 | 11:49 PM
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Brembo is a reputable brake company. A friend showed me his rotors on his FD. Un-beatable performance, mind you. However, Brembo isn't the greatest, no matter how good its performance, predigree, etc. is. I wish I could say which the best, but that would be biased.

What are the design parameters for a good two-piece rotor?
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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 01:42 AM
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oh say it.. but is it available for the 8?
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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted by shelleys_man_06
Brembo is a reputable brake company. A friend showed me his rotors on his FD. Un-beatable performance, mind you. However, Brembo isn't the greatest, no matter how good its performance, predigree, etc. is. I wish I could say which the best, but that would be biased.

What are the design parameters for a good two-piece rotor?
...a foreword, just in case it's not apparent, this is me agreeing with you

saying brembo makes "the best" brakes is like saying, oh i dunno, armani makes "the best" suits. there are other suit makers in the non-couture world which have styles which are just as fashionable with tailors making equitable quality at a price on par, etc etc.

considering that for a very very long time the braking system's ability to stop the wheels of a car from turning have outstripped a tyre's ability to stop a car, it's just retarded that people will still believe that swapping in a "big brake" kit will help their car stop faster (outside of a sustained maximum-effort competition).

very excellent quality brake rotors and calipers are made by companies other than brembo, but then you don't get their name on your caliper

anyways, aside from all that you want a really good and meaty disc, with an aluminum alloy hat (where all your weight savings and non-rusting aspects come into play). radially vented (just as any modern brake disc) is all you want, forget that cross drilling and "power slotted" nonsense, it's brake system rice.
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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by wakeech
...a foreword, just in case it's not apparent, this is me agreeing with you

saying brembo makes "the best" brakes is like saying, oh i dunno, armani makes "the best" suits. there are other suit makers in the non-couture world which have styles which are just as fashionable with tailors making equitable quality at a price on par, etc etc.

considering that for a very very long time the braking system's ability to stop the wheels of a car from turning have outstripped a tyre's ability to stop a car, it's just retarded that people will still believe that swapping in a "big brake" kit will help their car stop faster (outside of a sustained maximum-effort competition).

very excellent quality brake rotors and calipers are made by companies other than brembo, but then you don't get their name on your caliper

anyways, aside from all that you want a really good and meaty disc, with an aluminum alloy hat (where all your weight savings and non-rusting aspects come into play). radially vented (just as any modern brake disc) is all you want, forget that cross drilling and "power slotted" nonsense, it's brake system rice.
I agree with some of what you have to say but not all. Having gone with black Wilwood's I certainly agree other companies make good brakes. Just being able to "lock" a brake doesn't mean you have the best braking you can get. How much froce does it take to lock that brake? How easy is it to modulate? As the brakes heat up how much more force does it take? For a street application the stock brakes are perfectly effective. Take it to the track and the're still good but...

As for weight savings it is a very effective place to save it. I saved a lot more on the calipers than the rotor: 10 lbs. vs 3llbs. 13 lbs. of unsprung weight per wheel can definately be felt through the steering wheel. If you thought your steering was sharp before!

Drilling is a detriment as it takes mass away from your heat sink and weakens the rotor. My understanding about slotting is that it keeps your pad surface from glazing. Maybe BS but it doesn't hurt like drilling does.

I like mine, now if i can just get my flywheel put on...
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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 10:08 PM
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Performance effect

Just curious if anyone determine what kind of performance improvement you get with all these weight savings (e.g. lightweight flywheel, 2-piece brakes, lightweight rims, etc.)

Not doubting they have an effect, just wondering if its been quantified.

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Old Sep 7, 2004 | 08:06 AM
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Magic8,
I've posed the same question with no one offering any concrete numbers. SO - before I install my MS flywheel and my 17.6# MS rims, I'm going to get a G-Tech accelerometer so I can do some before and after comparisons. I'm not certain of the absolute accuracy of those devices, but I'll bet they are pretty good for A-to-B comparisons on the same vehicle.

As far as the effects of 2-piece rotors, I'm not planning on ordering any so their effect won't be in my numbers. I seriously doubt they would have any measureable effect on the acceleration performance. Their effect would more likely be felt in the ability of the wheel to keep contact on the road over rough surfaces. That's the effect of reducing the "unsprung" weight. Of course, every pound counts - so if you keep adding up the smallest weight reductions, eventually you will have a measureable increase in acceleration performance!

In addition to reducing the unsprung weight, I think the aluminum hats on the two piece rotors also provide a heat sink.
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Old Feb 4, 2005 | 01:10 PM
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Ok, just ordered the Project Mu rotors (Front & Rear) to go with my new HRE wheels; they are in stock in California so I will have them next week...

Will install and post some pics...
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Old Feb 4, 2005 | 01:38 PM
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Were did you buy them from ????
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Old Feb 4, 2005 | 01:45 PM
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Hopup racing, they are pretty cool; I have bought from them before... They have them in stock so they will ship today... You can call and ask for Steve...

http://www.hopupracing.com/index.html
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Old Feb 4, 2005 | 01:51 PM
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any info on the weight, dimensions, price?
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Old Feb 4, 2005 | 02:35 PM
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I finally went with the drilled/slotted had this setup on my Porsche and Mustang and liked it so it is going to be lighter than I originally thought... Probably 2-3 pounds per corner...

The price delivered is U$1,400.00; size is same as stock (Big enough...)
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Old Feb 4, 2005 | 02:50 PM
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cool, thanks.
some people when it comes to brakes they say "the bigger the better"...
I'll definately go for an Endless brake kit. The caliper they have weighs only 2.6kg(!)
It fits with rotors max 326mm (almost same as stock). I wonder if its worth a few more $$ to move up to the 350mm range...
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Old Feb 4, 2005 | 05:38 PM
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Drilled & Slotted...

A Pic...
Attached Thumbnails Two Piece Brake Rotors...-hopup1_1831_72716695.jpg  
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Old Feb 4, 2005 | 05:46 PM
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Very nice rotors..steep though.

Isnt Project Mu a subsidiary of Rays Wheels, or are they just both distributed in the U.S. by Mackin Industries?
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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 06:36 AM
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Project MU is distributed in the U.S. by Mackin Industries...
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 06:33 AM
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Have a tracking number should be here Friday, will install and post pics...
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 08:00 PM
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Hey cortc,
What are you doing for pads ?
and are you running stock rotors ?
-B
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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 04:57 AM
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Mazdaspeed Brake Pads & Stock Calipers for now...
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Old Feb 11, 2005 | 10:08 PM
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It will be here tomorrow...
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