velociti

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As the title indicates, I'm curious if the Tokico D-Specs will offer a slight drop in ride height coming from stock shocks? I know that the Konis do due to a different mechanism (low-pressure gas, right?). I have Tein S-Techs and just grabbed Tokicos from another member, so it's a little late anyway, but I was curious. Any ideas?

Greenblurr93

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should be fine. Tokico makes our factory shocks.

Ross_Dawg

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You will hardly notice a drop (if any). In general shocks do not lower a car at all.

Ever Hernandez

YOu should still be able to fit your index and middle finger between the fender and tire. i think this pic was taken when I had that set up..

alnielsen

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Typically the shocks don't determine the ride height, the springs do. The exception would be if you put on high pressure gas shocks. That would raise your car.
Springs are the true shock absorbers on the car. The "Shocks" should be called Dampeners, as the control/dampen the oscillations of the spring.

TopGear8

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That also depends on the tire size and profile..Probably won't be the exact same as yours...

velociti

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Cool. Yeah I'm aware that springs determine ride height and not shocks, but I also read on here that Konis allow cars to sit lower than their springs' advertised height. Good to know.

Thanks for clearing it all up.

Greenblurr93

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because of the low pressure gas of the koni's. it WILL sit lower... ive tested this on many cars, with many differant suspension combo's. the shocks are by no means meant to lower the car, but its a side affect of the setup, just making sure the OP is aware before he realizes his car is too low and needs to buy another setup.

Ever Hernandez

True, but he can't be running anything lower than 35 or higher than 50, so a 15mm difference may not be so bad.

velociti

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For sure. I'm running stock wheels / tire size.

In taking a look at pictures on here of Koni/S-Techs and Tokico/S-Techs, the Konis appear to sit noticably lower. Altspace has great shots of his car on just S-Techs and another member on Koni/ S-Techs, and it's obvious. The Tokico/S-Tech vehicles look to have around a normal drop. It's not a deal breaker at all (in fact I would welcome a slight drop!). Just wondering if anyone with the setup could verify this.

Thanks again.

cjkim

I went from springs + stock shocks to springs + tokico
there was a very slight drop after.

Greenblurr93

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a few members in my area have the setup, so im not speculating, ive seen this with my own eyes, in fact, a buddy of mine who wanted to stay in the B-Stock class in SCCA got a set of koni yellows but couldnt change his springs, his car is almost as low as my car which is on stechs and stock shocks.

GeorgeH

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I did the finger-test of my car, with D-Specs, vs. Koni cars at solo events (all cars in B stock with identical wheel/tire combos). I did not detect any difference in ride height using this rather impercise test.

If I recall my facts correctly, the stock shocks are mono-tube, while the Konis and Tokicos are twin-tube. Twin-tubes typically run lower pressure than monos. So, the D-Specs should drop the car a bit, just like Konis.

Of course, there's no telling what the actual internal pressure of the two shocks are, and there likely is a slight difference. But, I suspect the variation in spring heights from spring-to-spring, aftermarket springs included, is more significant than the difference than the internal pressure of the two dampers, at least from a ride-height standpoint.

elysium19

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This is what makes sense, but I've read in a number of places that Koni Yellows will give you some drop, in addition to any lowering springs. Greenblurr agrees with this:

My question - has anyone measured this at all? Any photos? Anything? Any info you guys have would be appreciated. PS- Koni would probably have this info if I called them....but I'll try the lazy way first!



I missed this (fairly qualitative) measurement:
So the Koni's by themselves give a drop "almost" as low as the sTechs (1.4" in front, 0.7" in back)?

chiketkd

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I think most estimate that the konis drop the car approximately a 1/2" all around.

elysium19

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Good stuff...thanks!

04Green

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So, Velociti..

Pictures of the new setup?

Inquiring minds, who are trying to decide on the exact same thing, want to know.