Sway Bars
04-02-2007, 07:27 PM
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wow, so just yes to everything i asked? 
still im a little worried because less upsetting also means more consistent. great price though, ill guess ill save up for these.
i was thinking ap sways before this, where they in fact updated?
i believe earlier you recommended AWR endlinks as well (i guess for those of us who dont want to fabricate our own?). just curious what else is out there and what makes the AWR ones better than the competition? also, these endlinks are adjustable. how do you "tune" endlinks? finally, i was thinking of first getting the AWR endlinks and using them with my stock bar for a while and get bars later on when i have more money. will this provide any benefits (or downfalls)?
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still im a little worried because less upsetting also means more consistent. great price though, ill guess ill save up for these.i was thinking ap sways before this, where they in fact updated?
i believe earlier you recommended AWR endlinks as well (i guess for those of us who dont want to fabricate our own?). just curious what else is out there and what makes the AWR ones better than the competition? also, these endlinks are adjustable. how do you "tune" endlinks? finally, i was thinking of first getting the AWR endlinks and using them with my stock bar for a while and get bars later on when i have more money. will this provide any benefits (or downfalls)?
thanks!
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04-03-2007, 07:18 PM
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What endlinks your guys recommend going with progressive sways? AWR or Racing Beat? Stock endlink probably not suitable for the larger and stiffer bar. Would progressive bar need to have the hole enlarge in order to fit racing beat endlinks?
04-03-2007, 07:26 PM
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Yes, you'll have to drill the holes larger for the RB endlinks, they have the OE 10mm holes, RB endlink is 12mm
I ran the OE links with the RB front bar and never had an issue.
The AWR endlinks are heim joints, which means direct and strong. In time they will wear, especially on a street car, which results in them rattling over bumps. That means you'll probably want to replace the heim ends every year or two, which makes them more maintence intensive, as are most racing parts
I ran the OE links with the RB front bar and never had an issue.
The AWR endlinks are heim joints, which means direct and strong. In time they will wear, especially on a street car, which results in them rattling over bumps. That means you'll probably want to replace the heim ends every year or two, which makes them more maintence intensive, as are most racing parts
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04-04-2007, 07:16 AM
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TeamRX8, what is your recommendation regarding which endlinks to use with the PT bars? I bought a set of Racing Beat Endlinks for the front and plan to use the stock endlinks for the rear. Should I just use stock endlinks on the front if I don't track my car much at all, if ever. There is no track in MN...Do you have to drill holes on the front sway per Racing Beat instruction? I currently have but not yet installed Koni adj yellow shocks/racing beat springs. I only drive my car on weekends and probably rarely autocross.
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04-04-2007, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Derex'8
Next purchase will be some adjustable/tougher endlinks
Originally Posted by TeamRX8
get them from AWR Racing, best ones out there
04-04-2007, 07:15 PM
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try the very first thread
https://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php...08&postcount=1
I'm using the OE endlinks, but have not really raced on them yet with the PT bars
I ran the RB front bar with is slightly softer with the OE endlinks without issue
the only broken OE endlinks I've seen are from people mounting the rear swaybar upside down, which is easy to do. The bar hits the subframe and the endlink overloads and breaks the ball out of the socket. Seen this happen now to at least three members here ..
https://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php...08&postcount=1
I'm using the OE endlinks, but have not really raced on them yet with the PT bars
I ran the RB front bar with is slightly softer with the OE endlinks without issue
the only broken OE endlinks I've seen are from people mounting the rear swaybar upside down, which is easy to do. The bar hits the subframe and the endlink overloads and breaks the ball out of the socket. Seen this happen now to at least three members here ..
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04-29-2007, 06:55 AM
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That's great to hear Team.
Sweet and I installed a set on his car.
We are finishing up on Tuesday (RB Springs and Koni Yellows and a tire rotation
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He ended up going with the RB end links for the front. Making the hole 2 mm bigger doesn't see like much but the bolt on the end of the link looks a lot bigger when held next to the stock end link.
Sweet and I installed a set on his car.
We are finishing up on Tuesday (RB Springs and Koni Yellows and a tire rotation
)He ended up going with the RB end links for the front. Making the hole 2 mm bigger doesn't see like much but the bolt on the end of the link looks a lot bigger when held next to the stock end link.
04-29-2007, 05:55 PM
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i agree with team that the PT front sway on full stiff is too stiff. both with stock shocks and springs and now with the motons front full stiff induces too much understeer.
04-30-2007, 04:04 AM
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i agree with team that the PT front sway on full stiff is too stiff. both with stock shocks and springs and now with the motons front full stiff induces too much understeer.
that will depend on a wide variety of variables, I only had very mild understeer at the limit, my rear bar is on full soft, the front bat bar I moved one end link back one hole from full stiff
05-02-2007, 10:53 PM
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the sways will transmit lots of vibration from road imperfections, but they do bring the handling alive. with stock springs and shocks once you overcome the sway the transition to the springs/shocks is pretty massive. i found out just how massive during a rather fast entrance to an on ramp. 
05-02-2007, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
that will depend on a wide variety of variables, I only had very mild understeer at the limit, my rear bar is on full soft, the front bat bar I moved one end link back one hole from full stiff
05-12-2007, 05:45 PM
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I've fallen in love with my car all over again...if ya remeber I had ran into a dilemna w/my rear endlinks, well I finally got around to installing my rear progress sway bar and those awr endlinks you suggested team...not even going to get into how long it took me 
Beleive it or not the car is much quicker all the way around, hands down
My only complaint is the endlinks are a bit annoying but I'll get use to it...they make this thump noise on every bump I hit...other than that I love every aspect about the car, the ride is a bit more rough on the streets but its okay for me
Now me & my baby are ready for our 1st AutoX
Beleive it or not the car is much quicker all the way around, hands down
My only complaint is the endlinks are a bit annoying but I'll get use to it...they make this thump noise on every bump I hit...other than that I love every aspect about the car, the ride is a bit more rough on the streets but its okay for me
Now me & my baby are ready for our 1st AutoX
05-12-2007, 11:24 PM
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I discovered today that you'll need adjustable end links in the rear to run the bar halfway between the two settings (one endlink in the forward hole and the other endlink in the rearward hole). The arm angle changes quite a bit between the two positions. Otherwise the bar will preload badly.