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Old 04-25-2005, 10:32 AM
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RB vs MS springs

I'm planning on getting a new set of springs (and shocks if the MS ones). I realize that with the MS springs I also want to get the shocks so my overall cost would be more. However, what I am interested in, besides the handling of course, is how the car will look after install. I really want a set that will lower the front of my car a little more than the back, to get more of a slight nose down appearance. Maybe something like 1" lower in front and 1/2" lower in back. Do both or either sets offer a greater drop in front? Does anyone have a side view pic of their car with either sets of these springs installed that they can post?

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Go teins then!
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Do the Tein S Techs require new shocks and if so what brand/model?

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Here is my car with the MS suspension (shocks,springs,sway bars)
and 19x8.5 rims with 235 35 19

http://photobucket.com/albums/v693/c...t=IMG_0036.jpg

http://photobucket.com/albums/v693/c...t=IMG_0039.jpg
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barely looks lowered TB...
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The MS springs do not lower a 'huge' amount.

Here is a pic before the MS suspension:
https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...chmentid=32766

After:
http://photobucket.com/albums/v693/c...t=IMG_0039.jpg

Here is a member with the Tien S springs:
https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...chmentid=34879
Doesn't appear lower than mine.. but hard to tell..

The drop in person looks more than the pics show I think.
And.. the car looks much better now. IMHO

I would have liked it better if the front was lower, but that is all you get from the MS suspension.

The MS suspension rides a little harsh, but the performance with these tires is WELL worth it

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Thanks for the pics. Anyone with the RB setup?
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Originally Posted by teebee
Do the Tein S Techs require new shocks and if so what brand/model?

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If you want to drop your car in the front more than the rear to make it look "even" then i would also suggest getting the Tien S springs. This is coming from someone who currently has the MS setup.

No aftermarket spring "requires" shocks, but unless you want a bouncy ride that handles like crap... you will need shocks. I would suggest gettting the Koni Shocks.
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I have the RB springs. The rear drop is about perfect (with 19" rims) you can stick about a fingers width between the rim & the fenderwell, but the front drop (both about .5") could be another 1". The RB springs are perfectly mated to the stock shocks. Honestly, I just can't see how a spring that drops a car more than this will function with the stock shocks, but that is just me. The people that have the Tein S Techs are very pleased with them.
Old 04-25-2005, 05:27 PM
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I have full MS suspension. It wont drop your car that much, but thats probably a good thing if you are ever going to get a body kit, I wouldnt want my car any lower since I have the MS body kit. Check my sig.
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I just put Racingbeat on mine I'll take some pics when I get home from work and post them (another 40min).
I did RB sway's at the same time, so I don't know how springs alone affect handling. I can say the car feels much better in a hard turn, and the every day ride doesn't feel any rougher.
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Originally Posted by QBallz
I just put Racingbeat on mine I'll take some pics when I get home from work and post them (another 40min).
I did RB sway's at the same time, so I don't know how springs alone affect handling. I can say the car feels much better in a hard turn, and the every day ride doesn't feel any rougher.
You must of read my mind. I was just gonna ask someone to post the RB setup to compare. :D
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Pictures kinda suck, but first one is a before, second one is an after. Would help more if I had found a place that had some damn sunlight. IM me if you need some more pics and I'll take my camera to work.
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I ordered my Teins today! When the time comes for shocks ill just get coilies . None of the springs drop the car ALOT unless you go with SPRINT or H&R
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im about to order the tien stech springs in a couple hours
where did you purchase them from mindtrip?
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Originally Posted by Mindtrip
I ordered my Teins today! When the time comes for shocks ill just get coilies . None of the springs drop the car ALOT unless you go with SPRINT or H&R

problem is that those springs don't match the stock shocks. The spring rates are different. so your car might look lower but won't handle better.
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Thanks to some helpful advice from members I ordered the Tein Basic Coilovers last week. They will allow me to get the height right where I want it but are not as adjustable, or as expensive as other coilovers. I was looking at the MS setup too as the price is almost identical. I wanted matched springs and shocks as well. I will not get them on for a few weeks though, so I cannot provide pics, or feedback yet. Just something else for you to consider, that said, I hear great things about both the MS and the RB so I do not think you can go wrong with either of them.
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OK even though I really like the Racing Beat products as well as great customer service, after researching these forums I am leaning towards either:

MS springs and shocks
Tien Basic Coilovers

But I do have a few questions. I have heard the MS springs/shock combo rides rather harsh. Is this true? But also people say the Tein Basic Coilovers don't have a harsh ride yet the spring rate posted for them is much "stiffer" than even the MS springs so I am a bit confused at which set provides a softer ride. I do want performance increase in cornering, but I also don't want to make the ride too harsh. And with the Teins it seems I can adjust the height so that the front drop is greater.

Also if I were to try and install these myself, is there any difference in ease of installation between the Tein Basic coilovers and MS spring/shock combo? Finally, what is the best place to purchase the Teins?

Thanks again.
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Anybody else have the Tein Basic Coilovers and can comment on the ride quality?
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Originally Posted by teebee
Anybody else have the Tein Basic Coilovers and can comment on the ride quality?
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