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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 04:13 PM
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Pirelli PZero Nero M+S

Anyone have these tires? After much research, I just ordered a set of these in 245/40-18. More info on the tire here. These are "Ultra High Performance" all-season tires.
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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 08:00 PM
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I am filled in envy... T. Paul you are too rich.

1 question: WHat is diff b/n this and the P0 Rosso? I know I can get p0 rosso in 225/45 18

By going 245/40 18 - will cost another 80A$ per tyre
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Old Mar 1, 2004 | 12:37 AM
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And the 245/40-18 is just wider. Many have put them on their cars now without any clearance problems.
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Old Mar 1, 2004 | 04:43 AM
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hmmm... Nero I might wait for them then,. How much are they roughly in US$?
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Old Mar 1, 2004 | 05:27 AM
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Originally posted by takahashi
hmmm... Nero I might wait for them then,. How much are they roughly in US$?
TAKA
THEY ARE PRICED AT $149 US DOLLARS , but they get much better pricing then we get here .

THose pirrellis look awesome i am jealous .
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Old Mar 1, 2004 | 04:26 PM
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Don't confuse the Pzero Nero M&S with its summer tire cousin. The M&S is Pirelli's Ultra-High Performance All-Season tire, where as the non-M&S version is a Max Performance Summer tire. Both versions score very well in TireRack's reviews and tests, and the M&S version is very competitively priced.

Omicron, please keep us informed on how the tire works on the RX-8, both in cold winter climate and warmer weather as well. Since I took delivery of my RX-8 in early December and procrastinated on snowshoes, I have had to limp through the winter on the Bridgestone summer tires. Since I have not yet sold my previous ride (anyone interested in a '92 BMW 318i with 140K miles in NJ?), I have been able to avoid any snowy roads with my RX. I have been contemplating going with a dedicated winter set-up of high performance all season radials instead of snows for better dry performance during the 95% of my winter driving w/o snow. I now have broadband access at home and don't mind working from home on the few occasions we have substantial snowfall (wife's ride is an Acura MDX so we have a more than adequate vehicle of last resort). Now I am contemplating going with a tire like the Nero M&S year round and saving the cost of dedicated winter wheels. Your experience, as well as others in the similar situation, will go a long way on deciding what to do this fall.
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Old Mar 2, 2004 | 12:48 AM
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I will definitely keep everyone posted on how these work out.
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Old Mar 2, 2004 | 12:58 AM
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omicron, are you using the stock wheels?
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Old Mar 2, 2004 | 12:38 PM
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omicron, are you using the stock wheels?
Yup. I wanted to be able to maintain the TPMS function for the time being, and, I didn't want to have to spend to buy new rims right now. I'm poor now after buying the Mazdaspeed side sills and appearance package stuff, here. :D
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Old Mar 2, 2004 | 12:54 PM
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Good going Omicron! I am about to come into a few bucks here soon and was considering buying ultra high performance all seasons and what I see in costs is about what I would want to pay. We get just enough snowfall here that isn't too much but enough that I need something other than siped stocks and I have been looking at this style for some time. You'll have to let us know how they look and feel after you get them on.

I considered a winter and wheel package for the winter months but decided that the $1200 plus was a bit beyond what I wish to budget. For four at $150, or so and the Canzoomer stage 1 I can have both at about the same pricing. Well, it's a plan of sorts so far.
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Old Mar 2, 2004 | 11:34 PM
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Yup, and pretty much what I decided too. Hard to believe, but where I live in Colorado we don't get that much snow either, and I think these tires will allow me to drive my 8 almost year round. When there's more than an inch or two of snow on the ground I can always take my Jeep, but that's usually only 2 or 3 times a year. And from everything I could find out about these Pirellis, they are as good or better on dry roads as the Potenzas are, so they may be the best of all possible worlds.

We'll soon see. :D
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Old Mar 2, 2004 | 11:41 PM
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I'm convinced these are the tires I want. As soon as I get my retro-active pay raise going back to August, I might to do the same thing. I looked at the specs on those and from what I could tell, they look like the answer to winter woes.

OK, I am actually torn though. Should I wait and put a few more miles on the stocks before I rip em off and turn them? If I do it this way, I can buy in on the Canzoomer stage 1 group buy. Then sometime around fall, I can get these tires. Decisions, decisions. Hmmmm
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Old Mar 3, 2004 | 03:06 AM
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Originally posted by Omicron
from everything I could find out about these Pirellis, they are as good or better on dry roads as the Potenzas are, so they may be the best of all possible worlds.

We'll soon see. :D
the RE040's (original equipment on most RX-8's unless you struck a deal at purchase for different tyres) are all around rather terrible tyres.
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Old Mar 3, 2004 | 10:18 AM
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I like the idea of the Zero Nero M&S too. They seem really nice, get great reviews (both from the TireRack itself and its customers) and are priced well for the size.

Even though I will still get snows, the Nero M&S would be perfect for everyday use. If they sacrifice a bit of performance to the S-03s on the street... who cares. On the street, that kind of difference is irrelevant.

Good find Omicron.

Keep us posted.

PS -- Where in Colorado are you? I have to admit I'm addicted to the Steamboat area...
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Old Mar 3, 2004 | 10:48 AM
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Originally posted by D MENAC 7
I'm convinced these are the tires I want. As soon as I get my retro-active pay raise going back to August, I might to do the same thing. I looked at the specs on those and from what I could tell, they look like the answer to winter woes.

OK, I am actually torn though. Should I wait and put a few more miles on the stocks before I rip em off and turn them? If I do it this way, I can buy in on the Canzoomer stage 1 group buy. Then sometime around fall, I can get these tires. Decisions, decisions. Hmmmm
Personally, I'd wait a bit and put a couple of thousand (total) miles on them. Probably the best you'll be able to sell the Potenzas for is around $125 to $150 each, whether they're new or with 2K miles.
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Old Mar 3, 2004 | 12:59 PM
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Originally posted by racerdave
I like the idea of the Zero Nero M&S too. They seem really nice, get great reviews (both from the TireRack itself and its customers) and are priced well for the size.

Even though I will still get snows, the Nero M&S would be perfect for everyday use. If they sacrifice a bit of performance to the S-03s on the street... who cares. On the street, that kind of difference is irrelevant.

Good find Omicron.

Keep us posted.

PS -- Where in Colorado are you? I have to admit I'm addicted to the Steamboat area...
Thanks Dave.

I'm just North of Denver, in the Boulder area.
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Old Mar 6, 2004 | 02:12 PM
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UPDATE: Tires are in, I get them installed next Tuesday, 3/9. Will post pics and comments shortly thereafter.
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Old Mar 7, 2004 | 08:44 AM
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They look like a good choice, and good price (i.e., anything less $ than a Michelin)! Do share pics, pls.
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Old Mar 7, 2004 | 09:04 AM
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Not to worry, I will. :D
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Old Mar 7, 2004 | 05:32 PM
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Originally posted by Omicron
UPDATE: Tires are in, I get them installed next Tuesday, 3/9. Will post pics and comments shortly thereafter.
I'm looking forward to hearing about these and seeing them on your car. Can't wait.
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Old Mar 7, 2004 | 05:57 PM
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Me too... I think it is time to do import business here L&L...

Omi.. can't wait your comment since you just jump out of the RE040s...
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Old Mar 8, 2004 | 06:35 PM
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"Tomorrow, tomorrow, I'll start the day tomorrow.... "

Oh, um, where did all you people come from? And why are you all LOOKING AT ME????

:D

Get'em tomorrow. Pics to follow soon.
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Old Mar 8, 2004 | 07:03 PM
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take a look at the MAHDI CAESAR TS-5 RIMS...SUPERCHROME
i am considering these in a 255/35/19 rear and 235/35/19 front setup with TOYO PROXES T1-S tires....supposed to be super stickey.......

Any better suggestions would be appreciated
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