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Omicron 02-29-2004 04:13 PM

Pirelli PZero Nero M+S
 
Anyone have these tires? After much research, I just ordered a set of these in 245/40-18. More info on the tire here. These are "Ultra High Performance" all-season tires.

JeupRX-8 02-29-2004 07:11 PM

I have used the Z rated versions in multiple setups, they were tested by Tirerack & beat out the Pilot Sport & S-03. They are great tires...


Troy J.

takahashi 02-29-2004 08:00 PM

I am filled in envy... T. Paul you are too rich.

1 question: WHat is diff b/n this and the P0 Rosso? I know I can get p0 rosso in 225/45 18

By going 245/40 18 - will cost another 80A$ per tyre

JeupRX-8 02-29-2004 08:55 PM

the Pzero Nero is the replacement to the Rosso... The rosso is old technology.


Troy J.

Omicron 03-01-2004 12:37 AM

And the 245/40-18 is just wider. Many have put them on their cars now without any clearance problems.

takahashi 03-01-2004 04:43 AM

hmmm... Nero I might wait for them then,. How much are they roughly in US$?

Lock & Load 03-01-2004 05:27 AM


Originally posted by takahashi
hmmm... Nero I might wait for them then,. How much are they roughly in US$?
TAKA
THEY ARE PRICED AT $149 US DOLLARS , but they get much better pricing then we get here .

THose pirrellis look awesome i am jealous .
cheers
michael

Ti Driver 03-01-2004 04:26 PM

Don't confuse the Pzero Nero M&S with its summer tire cousin. The M&S is Pirelli's Ultra-High Performance All-Season tire, where as the non-M&S version is a Max Performance Summer tire. Both versions score very well in TireRack's reviews and tests, and the M&S version is very competitively priced.

Omicron, please keep us informed on how the tire works on the RX-8, both in cold winter climate and warmer weather as well. Since I took delivery of my RX-8 in early December and procrastinated on snowshoes, I have had to limp through the winter on the Bridgestone summer tires. Since I have not yet sold my previous ride (anyone interested in a '92 BMW 318i with 140K miles in NJ?), I have been able to avoid any snowy roads with my RX. I have been contemplating going with a dedicated winter set-up of high performance all season radials instead of snows for better dry performance during the 95% of my winter driving w/o snow. I now have broadband access at home and don't mind working from home on the few occasions we have substantial snowfall (wife's ride is an Acura MDX so we have a more than adequate vehicle of last resort). Now I am contemplating going with a tire like the Nero M&S year round and saving the cost of dedicated winter wheels. Your experience, as well as others in the similar situation, will go a long way on deciding what to do this fall.

Omicron 03-02-2004 12:48 AM

I will definitely keep everyone posted on how these work out.

rudy8 03-02-2004 12:58 AM

omicron, are you using the stock wheels?

Omicron 03-02-2004 12:38 PM


Originally posted by rudy8
omicron, are you using the stock wheels?
Yup. I wanted to be able to maintain the TPMS function for the time being, and, I didn't want to have to spend to buy new rims right now. I'm poor now after buying the Mazdaspeed side sills and appearance package stuff, here. :D

D MENAC 7 03-02-2004 12:54 PM

Good going Omicron! I am about to come into a few bucks here soon and was considering buying ultra high performance all seasons and what I see in costs is about what I would want to pay. We get just enough snowfall here that isn't too much but enough that I need something other than siped stocks and I have been looking at this style for some time. You'll have to let us know how they look and feel after you get them on.

I considered a winter and wheel package for the winter months but decided that the $1200 plus was a bit beyond what I wish to budget. For four at $150, or so and the Canzoomer stage 1 I can have both at about the same pricing. Well, it's a plan of sorts so far.

Omicron 03-02-2004 11:34 PM

Yup, and pretty much what I decided too. Hard to believe, but where I live in Colorado we don't get that much snow either, and I think these tires will allow me to drive my 8 almost year round. When there's more than an inch or two of snow on the ground I can always take my Jeep, but that's usually only 2 or 3 times a year. And from everything I could find out about these Pirellis, they are as good or better on dry roads as the Potenzas are, so they may be the best of all possible worlds.

We'll soon see. :D

D MENAC 7 03-02-2004 11:41 PM

I'm convinced these are the tires I want. As soon as I get my retro-active pay raise going back to August, I might to do the same thing. I looked at the specs on those and from what I could tell, they look like the answer to winter woes.

OK, I am actually torn though. Should I wait and put a few more miles on the stocks before I rip em off and turn them? If I do it this way, I can buy in on the Canzoomer stage 1 group buy. Then sometime around fall, I can get these tires. Decisions, decisions. Hmmmm

wakeech 03-03-2004 03:06 AM


Originally posted by Omicron
from everything I could find out about these Pirellis, they are as good or better on dry roads as the Potenzas are, so they may be the best of all possible worlds.

We'll soon see. :D

the RE040's (original equipment on most RX-8's unless you struck a deal at purchase for different tyres) are all around rather terrible tyres.

racerdave 03-03-2004 10:18 AM

I like the idea of the Zero Nero M&S too. They seem really nice, get great reviews (both from the TireRack itself and its customers) and are priced well for the size.

Even though I will still get snows, the Nero M&S would be perfect for everyday use. If they sacrifice a bit of performance to the S-03s on the street... who cares. On the street, that kind of difference is irrelevant.

Good find Omicron.

Keep us posted.

PS -- Where in Colorado are you? I have to admit I'm addicted to the Steamboat area...

Omicron 03-03-2004 10:48 AM


Originally posted by D MENAC 7
I'm convinced these are the tires I want. As soon as I get my retro-active pay raise going back to August, I might to do the same thing. I looked at the specs on those and from what I could tell, they look like the answer to winter woes.

OK, I am actually torn though. Should I wait and put a few more miles on the stocks before I rip em off and turn them? If I do it this way, I can buy in on the Canzoomer stage 1 group buy. Then sometime around fall, I can get these tires. Decisions, decisions. Hmmmm

Personally, I'd wait a bit and put a couple of thousand (total) miles on them. Probably the best you'll be able to sell the Potenzas for is around $125 to $150 each, whether they're new or with 2K miles.

Omicron 03-03-2004 12:59 PM


Originally posted by racerdave
I like the idea of the Zero Nero M&S too. They seem really nice, get great reviews (both from the TireRack itself and its customers) and are priced well for the size.

Even though I will still get snows, the Nero M&S would be perfect for everyday use. If they sacrifice a bit of performance to the S-03s on the street... who cares. On the street, that kind of difference is irrelevant.

Good find Omicron.

Keep us posted.

PS -- Where in Colorado are you? I have to admit I'm addicted to the Steamboat area...

Thanks Dave. :)

I'm just North of Denver, in the Boulder area.

Omicron 03-06-2004 02:12 PM

UPDATE: Tires are in, I get them installed next Tuesday, 3/9. Will post pics and comments shortly thereafter. :)

Ned M 03-07-2004 08:44 AM

They look like a good choice, and good price (i.e., anything less $ than a Michelin)! Do share pics, pls.

Omicron 03-07-2004 09:04 AM

Not to worry, I will. :D

D MENAC 7 03-07-2004 05:32 PM


Originally posted by Omicron
UPDATE: Tires are in, I get them installed next Tuesday, 3/9. Will post pics and comments shortly thereafter. :)
I'm looking forward to hearing about these and seeing them on your car. Can't wait.

takahashi 03-07-2004 05:57 PM

Me too... I think it is time to do import business here L&L...

Omi.. can't wait your comment since you just jump out of the RE040s... :)

Omicron 03-08-2004 06:35 PM

"Tomorrow, tomorrow, I'll start the day tomorrow.... "

Oh, um, where did all you people come from? And why are you all LOOKING AT ME????

:D

Get'em tomorrow. Pics to follow soon.

ducatipace 03-08-2004 07:03 PM

take a look at the MAHDI CAESAR TS-5 RIMS...SUPERCHROME
i am considering these in a 255/35/19 rear and 235/35/19 front setup with TOYO PROXES T1-S tires....supposed to be super stickey.......

Any better suggestions would be appreciated


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