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Old 04-24-2006, 07:33 PM
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OMG new sway bars are AWESOME!

I just put Whiteline sway bars on my car, which has otherwise stock suspension. I got the non-adjustable bars (they're both solid), because they were the cheapest available. www.DPEweb.com had them for $120 each and they came with polyurethane mounts and grease. Phil was fantastic in answering many questions prior to my purchase, too.

The ride feels the same, with a touch more steering response in road driving. When I hit the corners in dry weather, though, OMG!!! The already fantastic handling of this car was just woken up even more! There is NO initial understeer and I don't need to trail brake to get the car to rotate anymore!

So far, I just can't believe how much more fun the car is! I'll be at Road Atlanta a week from Saturday (so, May 6/7), so I'll get to see how this is on the track. My main purpose for getting the bars was to preserve the tires a bit. I've got 255/35/18 Dunlop SP Super Sport Race and I'm just killing the outsides on the track. I know I've gotta lower the pressures a bit, but I need either more camber or just to corner flatter. And this was the cheapest solution. Cheap is important because I'm leasing the car and will only have it for 1 more year.

So, in summary, this was an AWESOME mod and a great bang-for-the-buck!
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good stuff man, did you install them yourself ? if so how much time did it take up ?
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The whiteline swaybars are really nice. I got them from DPE also. Great service and prices.

kw1k - The rear swaybar is cake, but the front will take a little more effort. Rear took me about 5-10 mins and the front about 20-25 mins. But once you figure out which way to rotate the front bar when installing, it is pretty easy.
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I did the whitelines last fall and they are awesome, best suspension upgrade for the money. I added adjustable endlinks, but don't know how to really use them, I just made them the same lengths as the stock endlinks.
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Originally Posted by kw1k
good stuff man, did you install them yourself ? if so how much time did it take up ?
I installed them myself, with the help of a fellow RX-8'er. Help from a friend is useful on the front bar to negotiate it back and forth to get it out.

Mine took A LOT longer than it should've because I've driven the car in Rochester, NY and Ann Arbor, MI winters (read: a lot of SALT). We had a problem on one of the front end links and they were all a major biatch. The job should've taken an hour, but took nearer to 4! With the bolts all easy to break loose, it could be done in an hour with a friend, or maybe a tad more by yourself.
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whiteline sway bars are great!
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Hey thats cool. Got pics? I like silver sway bars. Or the MS ones look cool too.
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Originally Posted by DOMINION
Hey thats cool. Got pics? I like silver sway bars. Or the MS ones look cool too.
Uhhh..... They're sway bars... And they're silver...

And you can't see them from outside the car!
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who cares what colour the sway bars are? as long as it is doing its job ;-p
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this is on my to do list..sways
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Originally Posted by EZZY
who cares what colour the sway bars are? as long as it is doing its job ;-p
Yeah but I like silver on my 8 cuz its blue. Would look odd to have Blue Red Black ect all over my bay lol
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how thick are whiteline nonadjustables?
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Sways are defintitely something everyone should get, along with clear corners.
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Probably a stupid question, but what is required to install the sway bars?

Do you need to lift the whole car, any special tools?

Thanks!

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i'm going to be getting only a rear sway bar though, im going to leave my front stock, due to the fact that i have a staggered setup with my rims. It would just cause under-steer.
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Originally Posted by D2RX8
Probably a stupid question, but what is required to install the sway bars?

Do you need to lift the whole car, any special tools?

Thanks!

D2.
Basic tools. You can do it on jackstands, but a lift is so much easier.
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Can you post the increase in size for both the bars vs the stock ones.
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Originally Posted by DOMINION
Yeah but I like silver on my 8 cuz its blue. Would look odd to have Blue Red Black ect all over my bay lol
Ok, I think you might be thinking of a STRUT bar. SWAY bars are UNDER the car!
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yes

stock front 26.5, whiteline front 27.5
stock rear 16, whiteline rear 18
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Originally Posted by kw1k
i'm going to be getting only a rear sway bar though, im going to leave my front stock, due to the fact that i have a staggered setup with my rims. It would just cause under-steer.
You might want to get an adjustable bar due to the fact that you're mixing and matching stuff.
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whiteline bars

27mm standard front bar - $115 - These bars actually measure 27.5mm vs. the 26.5mm of the OEM bars, but the real increase in stiffness comes from them being solid vs. hollow. Based on data provided by Whiteline, we calculate this bar to be approximately 59% stiffer than OEM.

27mm adjustable front bar - $150 - These bars also measure 27.5mm, and benefit from two mounting holes on each side that allow you do adjust the stiffness of the bar. This bar can either be approximately 54% stiffer than OEM, or 64% stiffer depending on which mounting holes are used. A nice, simple way to fine-tune chassis balance to suit your driving style or to better match other suspension modifications.

18mm standard rear bar - $115 - These bars are exactly 2mm thicker than OEM, and are also solid. This lends an increase in stiffness of approximately 87%, which really helps keep the rear end under control under extreme circumstances. And if you're like me, you want your rear end under control in extreme circumstances!

18mm adjustable rear bar - $150 - These bars are also exactly 2mm thicker than OEM, and of course are solid. With a choice of two mounting holes on each side, you can set this bar to be either 79% stiffer than OEM or 91% stiffer. Once again, handy to be able to fine-tune chassis balance.

All percentages above are approximate and based on our calculations, which are based on data that Whiteline provided on the OEM bars.
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stock front 26.5, whiteline front 27.5
stock rear 16, whiteline rear 18
Ooh, I thought the front was actually the same as stock, except solid, rather than hollow. Cool.

Phil (DPE) had a big sticky post about all the sway bars somewhere. Compared thicknesses and stiffnesses, too. Email him and he'll point you to it.
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did the solid bars come w/ new bushings? urethane?
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Originally Posted by scsi
did the solid bars come w/ new bushings? urethane?
Yeah, they come with new urethane bushings, lateral lock kit, and grease.
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