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Old 10-14-2004, 03:01 AM
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After 2 weeks with the new pads and a long trip over the weekend, I finally washed the car today, and I'd have to agree with MarkD, much less brake dust than the originals. A nice bonus on top of being squeal free. Also it seems every dealer is applying a different anti-vibration compound. I should give the shop a call and find out what they're using, I thought at first it might be CRC Brake Quiet, but that's more of a red-rubbery goo, rather than a pink-metallic paste. Here's a pic for comparison:
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Old 10-14-2004, 09:07 PM
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I'd be interested in knowing what they are using too. Looks different than Mark's pics. You'd think there would be a standard they are using, no?
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His pads look the same as mine, I think (unless I'm being my usual inobservant self) but mine apparently don't have any 'goop' on them. I hope they didn't forget to coat my pads

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Old 10-15-2004, 12:08 AM
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Yes, I should have been more clear. That's what I was referring to.
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Here's mark's brakes, lightened up.
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Old 10-15-2004, 07:00 PM
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Thanks for doing that, Charles. After you adjusted that pic, I took a second look at my brakes. Apparently, as you can probably tell from the image now, I do have some sort of goop on my brakes, but it's the same color as the pads. Not sure why everyone else seems to have pink or a lighter color.

On the performance side, though, I still have no squeal; very, very minimal brake dust on my wheels; and the stopping power does not seem compromised in the least.
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Well, it's been a few days since I had my pads replaced as per the TSB... the service writer said car was done, no machining needed on the rotors. I picked up the car and "WHOA MOMA!" They should've resurfaced these rotors... first few stops definitely didn't feel ok to me. It's been a few days now and the brakes are finally starting to feel back to normal again. I did notice that the new pads were obviously not making full contact with the rotors the first hours of use as I could see where they were making contact, and where there was a wide patch that was not getting fricton. As a matter of fact, the following day I notice light rust (yes! rust!) on the rotors where the pads were not making contact. A few more agressive stops later, and I guess they are now making full contact as the rust is gone. I was taught to always machine rotors whenever pads get changed... even on NEW discs. Sucks that the TSB didn't include it.

P.S. The squeal is definitely gone! And as a bonus, there is ALOT less brake dust!
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My dealer (Gunther of Ft. Lauderdale) keeps telling me that they haven't heard anything from Mazda and I even took the print out of the TSB. Anyone know of a number that I can contact Mazda in regards to having my breaks serviced? Also, if anyone knows of a dealer in the Miami, FL area that will replace my breaks please let me know. The squeal is driving me nuts.
Old 11-07-2004, 09:29 PM
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Brake squeal

Take it to Lou Bachrodt in Coconut Creek. They had to order the brake pads which took about 2 weeks, but they replaced them for me.


Originally Posted by Rizim
My dealer (Gunther of Ft. Lauderdale) keeps telling me that they haven't heard anything from Mazda and I even took the print out of the TSB. Anyone know of a number that I can contact Mazda in regards to having my breaks serviced? Also, if anyone knows of a dealer in the Miami, FL area that will replace my breaks please let me know. The squeal is driving me nuts.
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Originally Posted by Wankeler
... A few more agressive stops later, and I guess they are now making full contact as the rust is gone. I was taught to always machine rotors whenever pads get changed... even on NEW discs. Sucks that the TSB didn't include it.

P.S. The squeal is definitely gone! And as a bonus, there is ALOT less brake dust!
They also recommend that you go lightly on the brakes for the first few hundred miles. With the pads not fully seated, you can get hot spots on the rotors which can (not always) lead to warping the rotor. The longer, lighter stop helps the rotor dissipate heat from the hot spots.
Old 11-07-2004, 10:24 PM
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well I told them about the squealing they had to order the pads.. most shops will not have pads in stock and they take like a week or to to be shipped in..
Old 11-08-2004, 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by K1nG
how would i ask a dealer to do this for me? i just tell them that i am having the brake squealing problem and that i need them to install the new brake pads + resurface the rotors?
Yeah, you have it about right. Be prepared to educate them about the TSB though. Also, the resurfacing of the rotors is on your quarter, and also uses-up one of the resurface-able times that they are still useable. Rotors can only be resurfaced so many times before they are too thin and have to be replaced. If they are not warped and if they are not grooved considerably, you don't want your rotors resurfaced.
Old 11-13-2004, 10:30 AM
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Anyone regret getting the pads replaced? Have you noticed any decrease in stopping power?
Old 11-13-2004, 10:42 AM
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I finally got the new pads installed by the dealer. I haven't heard any squealing since, so I'm happy. I've been easy on the brakes, though, to prevent any warping of the rotors. For this reason, I can't comment on whether or not stopping power has been affected.
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I've had them for a month, and 1000 miles. No squeak and cannot tell a difference in braking performance - still great. I think this rates with the M-flash. It was a long time in coming, but it appears they got it right.
Old 11-14-2004, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Charles Cope
I've had them for a month, and 1000 miles. No squeak and cannot tell a difference in braking performance - still great. I think this rates with the M-flash. It was a long time in coming, but it appears they got it right.
Is there any less brake dust?
Old 11-14-2004, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by flatso
has anyone read the latest TSB that addresses this issue?

http://www.finishlineperformance.com...cs/04-006.html

Yes.
Old 11-14-2004, 07:16 PM
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There has been an article previously posted on how to bed in new brakes to prevent squeal and dust, which involves several 100-0 stops when the brakes are pretty new. Is this ok because you have new rotors so the rotors won't get warped or what?


http://www.zeckhausen.com/bedding_in_brakes.htm
Old 11-15-2004, 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by msrecant
Is there any less brake dust?
Less, but still noticable.
Old 11-17-2004, 03:36 PM
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went by the dealership lastnight to ask about getting new pads on my 8 .they checked the vin#and said it qualified for new pads aslong as i had a squealing problem.so i lied and i'll get new pads when they come in, they had to order them .it's o.k to tell a white lie .they did about our hp.after all they still dont know what hp the 8's have.
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Had my pads replaced a couple of weeks ago...They still squeal.. I should say that the front passenger side squeals (it used to be both). It squeals at a higher pitch and not as loudly this time...

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Well,,, it sounds like maybe she'll get used to it, just like you evidently already have. :D
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I feel you. I got about 2 weeks of quiet and then the honeymoon was over. I got new pads and rotors and the noise is now twice as bad as before. I will be making that trip back to the dealer to get this issue solved.
Old 12-15-2004, 07:51 PM
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just picked up my 8 today from the dealer for the new pads and no more squeel!! They did'nt have them in stock, but only took the dealer one day to get them in after ordering them yesterday.
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i got my dealer to order me new brake pads.. now, was it the front or rear or both? my 8 seems to be squeeling from the fronts... they should be getting it shorty.


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