Aggressive Wheel Fitment Thread
06-06-2009, 12:16 PM
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06-06-2009, 12:51 PM
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In all seriousness though my point is this - try adding 25mm (a hair under an inch) to the highest point of that setup and thats what an 18x9.5 +15 265/35 setup would look like. I posted the picture, to show potential clearance, lol.
Even though it'd be "hellaflush"
06-06-2009, 01:12 PM
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Stick the widest wheels you can with the lowest offset and then stretch the tiniest ire you can so it can fit at a dropped level so far that the car is devoid of any of its original performance parameters. Must allow 1/4" + of rim lip showing to give that (if I hit a pot whole too big my tires are going to pop/Fat chick in a 2 piece bikini look) Don't forget to camber in your tires so far the car barely turns and drives only on the inside corner of your SIDEWALL.. Extra points if you are only riding on springs.
Don't do it. lol
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06-06-2009, 01:34 PM
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You've fit one wheel spec - something you already knew would fit from another member. It looks good but don't act as if you know everything of all setups, especially when others have already run them.
Your 245's on a 10" wheel is considered a stretch. The tall profile just gave it the balloon wheel look...
06-06-2009, 01:42 PM
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Pulling all around with liner/bolt modification - much more than the average 8 owner is looking to do. Upper end/luxury VIP style shops that know what they're doing can do it all cleanly, they're used to working on cars that sometimes cost 10x ours, lol.
You're in SLO? If you ever head down to OC area I can give you great recommendation of a shop that does super aggressive fitment, with wide tires.
It is within the realm of possibilities, its just the amount of effort/homework/$$ that needs to be thrown at it is quite high...
You're in SLO? If you ever head down to OC area I can give you great recommendation of a shop that does super aggressive fitment, with wide tires.
It is within the realm of possibilities, its just the amount of effort/homework/$$ that needs to be thrown at it is quite high...
06-06-2009, 02:15 PM
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What are you talking about? I fit a 255/40 on an 18x9.5 +12 wheel - 18x9.5 +15 265/35 is about the same (give or take 2mm). The 265/35 would probably be easier to fit because of the shortened OD.
You've fit one wheel spec - something you already knew would fit from another member. It looks good but don't act as if you know everything of all setups, especially when others have already run them.
Your 245's on a 10" wheel is considered a stretch. The tall profile just gave it the balloon wheel look...
You've fit one wheel spec - something you already knew would fit from another member. It looks good but don't act as if you know everything of all setups, especially when others have already run them.
Your 245's on a 10" wheel is considered a stretch. The tall profile just gave it the balloon wheel look...
I've been building cars for years. Your RX8 might be your first venture into modifying cars but I've been around the block and back a few times. I can get just about ANY wheel size within reason to fit any given car, it just takes lots of fabrication and or sacrificed handling. At Endless motoring we have pushed out a bunch of Nissans, VDubs and 4 slammed and butterflied VIPs. Its not much work to scoop some random oversized rim and getting it to FIT (especially with undersized tires), but it takes a lot of work to get a proper sized wheel to fit and function as well as it looks.
You chose to sacrifice handling/tire wear and chose to do a bit of pulling and rolling to get yours to fit. It came out nice (apart from the pulling) and it seems like you are satisfied with how it looks (which is the main point we do what we want to our own cars) This guy however wanted to fit the wheels WITHOUT extreme cambering and fender work. The setup he wants to run just doesn't work for what he hopes to achieve. Looking at the pics you posted alone shows that, I wouldn't even need to know anything about tire sizing to figure that out.
And yes my 245s are stretched so are my 255 NT-05s and no the tall profile doesn't simply give it the "balloon wheel look" (no idea where you came up with that one from) but it allows the wheel to be stretched without sacrificing my contact patch and killing my ride quality and turn in. I rather not blow my tire off going into a turn too hard. With all the suspension mods I have the car is way too stiff, it wouldn't adjust by rolling the body through a turn it'd simply skid and rip the bead off the rim.
In all reality I think the 17X10 +25 setup I run is far too aggressive considering someone looking at an easy install mixed with high degrees of spirited driving. It took too much work shaving bumpers, rolling and cutting fenders, cutting inner liners, cutting/shaving bumper supports, cutting side marker and bumper mounting supports, removing all screws and replacing them with flat pan heads or shaving them down. All that and it still rubs the actual fender well, not the liner but it rubs against the car it self when you make deep turns. Not nearly as practical as most think. It'd be different if I cheated and ran a staggered setup up front but then I lose the ability to rotate my tires. So all in all ya just gotta roll with the punches.
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06-06-2009, 08:35 PM
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I was just saying it was potentially possible with my car. You pretty much said it wasn't possible without excessive camber and/or wear. I was just saying that actually, it is possible.
So, can you tell me how many individuals have unbeaded their tires mid turn without any other factors? Obviously it's not prime for racing but claiming that type of thing will happen driving through a turn is silly. Tires don't have that type of grip, street tires at least.
You're rubbing the rear pf the front fender wells because your profile is so tall - but you knew that. I've had the same issue with other setups. I was just saying the appearance of a high profile tire w/stretch reminds me of a ballooning effect like a cartoon car's tires. Just imo there.
I ran the typical 18x9.5 +45 for ages before going to more aggressive setups. Sacrificing tire wear? Not much. Changing handling characteristics? Notthing that will effect the enjoyment factor on an non-competetive level.
I simply got a little bugged when you flat out called something impossible, that is, in reality, possible. Just not easy...
One thing I think most can agree on is that we're never quite satisfied with looks, ever. Lol
So, can you tell me how many individuals have unbeaded their tires mid turn without any other factors? Obviously it's not prime for racing but claiming that type of thing will happen driving through a turn is silly. Tires don't have that type of grip, street tires at least.
You're rubbing the rear pf the front fender wells because your profile is so tall - but you knew that. I've had the same issue with other setups. I was just saying the appearance of a high profile tire w/stretch reminds me of a ballooning effect like a cartoon car's tires. Just imo there.
I ran the typical 18x9.5 +45 for ages before going to more aggressive setups. Sacrificing tire wear? Not much. Changing handling characteristics? Notthing that will effect the enjoyment factor on an non-competetive level.
I simply got a little bugged when you flat out called something impossible, that is, in reality, possible. Just not easy...
One thing I think most can agree on is that we're never quite satisfied with looks, ever. Lol
06-07-2009, 02:26 AM
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I was just saying it was potentially possible with my car. You pretty much said it wasn't possible without excessive camber and/or wear. I was just saying that actually, it is possible.
So, can you tell me how many individuals have unbeaded their tires mid turn without any other factors? Obviously it's not prime for racing but claiming that type of thing will happen driving through a turn is silly. Tires don't have that type of grip, street tires at least.
You're rubbing the rear pf the front fender wells because your profile is so tall - but you knew that. I've had the same issue with other setups. I was just saying the appearance of a high profile tire w/stretch reminds me of a ballooning effect like a cartoon car's tires. Just imo there.
I ran the typical 18x9.5 +45 for ages before going to more aggressive setups. Sacrificing tire wear? Not much. Changing handling characteristics? Notthing that will effect the enjoyment factor on an non-competetive level.
I simply got a little bugged when you flat out called something impossible, that is, in reality, possible. Just not easy...
One thing I think most can agree on is that we're never quite satisfied with looks, ever. Lol
So, can you tell me how many individuals have unbeaded their tires mid turn without any other factors? Obviously it's not prime for racing but claiming that type of thing will happen driving through a turn is silly. Tires don't have that type of grip, street tires at least.
You're rubbing the rear pf the front fender wells because your profile is so tall - but you knew that. I've had the same issue with other setups. I was just saying the appearance of a high profile tire w/stretch reminds me of a ballooning effect like a cartoon car's tires. Just imo there.
I ran the typical 18x9.5 +45 for ages before going to more aggressive setups. Sacrificing tire wear? Not much. Changing handling characteristics? Notthing that will effect the enjoyment factor on an non-competetive level.
I simply got a little bugged when you flat out called something impossible, that is, in reality, possible. Just not easy...
One thing I think most can agree on is that we're never quite satisfied with looks, ever. Lol
But yes I too agree that one can never be satisfied when building these things, that is both a blessing and a curse. But hey we live for this sh*t.
06-07-2009, 03:07 AM
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Stretched tires for competetive racing applications would be absolute stupidity. I was speaking from an aggressive/fun canyon drive/cruise - I'd really love to see proof of popping an undamaged bead. Keep in mind your initial stretch and my current stretches are essentially equivilents with regard to recommended wheel width.
What are you considering excessive camber? Sure, camber may cause some uneven wear but camber alone will not decrease a tire's life by 50% or anything ridiculous like that.
At least we do agree on last portion! Knowing that nothing is permanent and nearly everything is replaceable keeps me going...
What are you considering excessive camber? Sure, camber may cause some uneven wear but camber alone will not decrease a tire's life by 50% or anything ridiculous like that.
At least we do agree on last portion! Knowing that nothing is permanent and nearly everything is replaceable keeps me going...
