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Old Mar 20, 2012 | 08:30 PM
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Won't Start After Storage

Stored my 05' 94000km for the winter, took out the battery and added fuel stabilizer. Went to start it today and it turned over but it was a higher pitch (see video). I changed the coils @ 83000km and plugs @ 91000. If its something minor I can do it myself but I don't know what the problem is, any insight would be appreciated.

Failed start video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kn_wb...ature=youtu.be

I tried starting it twice in the video, once with the window closed (can't hear much) 2nd with the window open so you can hear it trying to start.
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Old Mar 21, 2012 | 12:00 PM
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It is very difficult to hear exactly what's going on from the video, but I'm not sure I can hear any compression rhythm. Does the starter appear to be engaged and turning the engine (as opposed to just grinding on the ring gear)? If so, and you think it sounds higher pitched than normal, your compression might be down. If your apex seals were marginal prior to storage, and they lost oil film during storage, this may be the reason for loss of compression. I've had this happen in pistion engine rings before, and I restored compression by adding a bit of oil to the cylinders. Not sure if apex seals can "go dry" in storage in a similar way, but maybe.

First, confirm that the starter is actually spinning the engine at a reasonable RPM. If it is, but there is little compression rhythm, try adding a bit of ATF to the chambers :

https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-tech-garage-22/another-how-fix-compressions-any-rotary-engine-atf-170689/

This *might* help get the car started if the problem is compression related, however this would be indicative of bad apex seals.

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Old Mar 21, 2012 | 04:03 PM
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Sounds flooded. Have you tried the deflood procedure?
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Old Mar 21, 2012 | 05:33 PM
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I think your car flooded...Because my car sound same like your car when it flooded...
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Old Mar 21, 2012 | 06:39 PM
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I'll try the deflood procedure thx
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Old Mar 22, 2012 | 11:34 AM
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I would be curious to know why the car would be flooded just from sitting a few months. If it is, that would be symptomatic of another issue (bad coils/wires/plugs, weak battery/starter, or low compression).
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Old Mar 22, 2012 | 11:35 AM
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Maybe leaking fuel injector?
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Old Mar 22, 2012 | 11:43 AM
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I agree with Pete and disagree with the flooding comments. This is most likely a sticking seal issue, not a flooding issue.

Though if there is another root cause, you can cause a flood if it won't start, so it's possible that it will become both.
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Old Mar 22, 2012 | 01:16 PM
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i store my 8 for the winter and one year when i tried to start it after sitting it flooded. the battery tender didnt keep it charged enough
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Old Mar 22, 2012 | 02:16 PM
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was definitely flooded, I performed the de-flooding procedure ( removing fuel pump fuse and air pump then cranking for 5secs and waiting for 5 secs for a minute) took 3 tries but she started and is running fine now, thanks for the help every1 :D
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