warranty problems with riverside mazda
11-28-2006, 04:21 PM
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warranty problems with riverside mazda
went in today to mazda becuz of a consistent misfire ive been gettin at high rpms......apparently i had multiple codes for the CEL...........one being catalytic efficiency code......which i dont care i dont have the cat on there.....lol another bein there was a leak coming from the intake manifold.......which anyone that has put on an aftermarket intake knows the cap thats supposed to be on well mine apparently fell off 
........also even the tech admitted that the ignition coils were bad, however there tryin to tell me that becuz of the recall prior i had all that stuff on, had to go back to stock for them to put that stuff on.........now there not going to waranty the ignition coils........n were tryin to sell me new ignition coils, as well as a new cat........they said if i come back for service, that if that stuff is on there, there going to completely void my warrantee...........they cant do that.........anyone else have a similar problem with any mazda dealership.........i didnt know they could void the warranty, for a customer complaint that had nothing to do with aftermarket parts put on the car.........???? can i get some advice please ......... thanx
........also even the tech admitted that the ignition coils were bad, however there tryin to tell me that becuz of the recall prior i had all that stuff on, had to go back to stock for them to put that stuff on.........now there not going to waranty the ignition coils........n were tryin to sell me new ignition coils, as well as a new cat........they said if i come back for service, that if that stuff is on there, there going to completely void my warrantee...........they cant do that.........anyone else have a similar problem with any mazda dealership.........i didnt know they could void the warranty, for a customer complaint that had nothing to do with aftermarket parts put on the car.........???? can i get some advice please ......... thanx
11-28-2006, 04:29 PM
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Well since you dont have your CAT on your technicaly driving around illegaly so them not working on the car to me is somewhat justifiable since they have to write off that the car is fixed and fine to run. They can't do that really since technicaly you need your CAT to drive legaly. Most here and most people I've known to have their CAT taken off just put it back on for service to avoid this.
Offer to have your CAT put back on and then have your coils replaced. That is what I believe I read in your post what they are asking you to do. Unless having no CAT and your Intake directly caused the coils to go bad.
Just tossing out sum things man.
Offer to have your CAT put back on and then have your coils replaced. That is what I believe I read in your post what they are asking you to do. Unless having no CAT and your Intake directly caused the coils to go bad.
Just tossing out sum things man.
11-28-2006, 11:02 PM
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went in today to mazda becuz of a consistent misfire ive been gettin at high rpms......apparently i had multiple codes for the CEL...........one being catalytic efficiency code......which i dont care i dont have the cat on there.....lol another bein there was a leak coming from the intake manifold.......which anyone that has put on an aftermarket intake knows the cap thats supposed to be on well mine apparently fell off ........also even the tech admitted that the ignition coils were bad, however there tryin to tell me that becuz of the recall prior i had all that stuff on, had to go back to stock for them to put that stuff on.........now there not going to waranty the ignition coils........n were tryin to sell me new ignition coils, as well as a new cat........they said if i come back for service, that if that stuff is on there, there going to completely void my warrantee...........they cant do that.........anyone else have a similar problem with any mazda dealership.........i didnt know they could void the warranty, for a customer complaint that had nothing to do with aftermarket parts put on the car.........???? can i get some advice please ......... thanx
........also even the tech admitted that the ignition coils were bad, however there tryin to tell me that becuz of the recall prior i had all that stuff on, had to go back to stock for them to put that stuff on.........now there not going to waranty the ignition coils........n were tryin to sell me new ignition coils, as well as a new cat........they said if i come back for service, that if that stuff is on there, there going to completely void my warrantee...........they cant do that.........anyone else have a similar problem with any mazda dealership.........i didnt know they could void the warranty, for a customer complaint that had nothing to do with aftermarket parts put on the car.........???? can i get some advice please ......... thanxnote
1 no cat. you lose.
2 if you have a cel for the intake manifold you have a big expensive problem.. this has nothing to to with your cai.
3 they cannot deny you service to the coils, unless they prove the no cat or cai caused the problem.
you are going to lose the battle... put it back to stock and take it in. or find a more prefomance oriented dealer...
but no cat is always a very very bad idea..
btw, if you had where you where from more would be able to help.
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11-28-2006, 11:13 PM
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Tell them what if you put the cat back on. Sometimes the intake manifold code has nothing to do with intake manifold directly.
They're pretty cool about it already, since its 100% illegal to run around without a CAT .... Just put it back on stock and see what they say.
They're pretty cool about it already, since its 100% illegal to run around without a CAT .... Just put it back on stock and see what they say.
11-28-2006, 11:26 PM
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well see apparently they had documented that i wasnt stock when i went in for the emissions recall......i put everything back to stock for them since they couldnt do it with aftermarket parts on there.........n then after recall put everything back on...... now the code said it was running lean reason why was the vacuum port under the intake mainfold, the cap had come off..........took care of that now......but see i face a moral dilemma, the stock exhaust will bolt up to the cat, however with the racing beat exhaust n midpipe i had a major exhaust leak from the back of midpipe to front of catback exhaust.......so they hacked the flange....put in one solid pipe........so that means midpipe n exhaust will have to be both put back on.......the dealership already had said there not gonna pay for ignition coils, in addition to tryin to sell me a brand new cat which is sittin in my backyard.....so they wanna charge me 450 including parts n labor........when on mazdatrix i found same oem ignition coils for 57 each.......im thinkin i would rather spend 230 n do it myself....n to answer ur question swoope im in southern california......i think im gonna go check out norco mazda there more in tune with performance, hell from what i heard through the grapevine they sell n install racing beat parts lol..........im gonna go check them out.........
11-28-2006, 11:42 PM
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to me..
put your location in you data... it will be there forever. see look in the upper right of my post.
the new coils are ~25 bucks now..
put the stock cat back on.. it should fit with the rb exhaust... and go from there...
and yes if the nipple from the cai was missing that could do it..
do you have a list of the codes. it would be helpful.
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put your location in you data... it will be there forever. see look in the upper right of my post.
the new coils are ~25 bucks now..
put the stock cat back on.. it should fit with the rb exhaust... and go from there...
and yes if the nipple from the cai was missing that could do it..
do you have a list of the codes. it would be helpful.
beers
Originally Posted by dastallion951
well see apparently they had documented that i wasnt stock when i went in for the emissions recall......i put everything back to stock for them since they couldnt do it with aftermarket parts on there.........n then after recall put everything back on...... now the code said it was running lean reason why was the vacuum port under the intake mainfold, the cap had come off..........took care of that now......but see i face a moral dilemma, the stock exhaust will bolt up to the cat, however with the racing beat exhaust n midpipe i had a major exhaust leak from the back of midpipe to front of catback exhaust.......so they hacked the flange....put in one solid pipe........so that means midpipe n exhaust will have to be both put back on.......the dealership already had said there not gonna pay for ignition coils, in addition to tryin to sell me a brand new cat which is sittin in my backyard.....so they wanna charge me 450 including parts n labor........when on mazdatrix i found same oem ignition coils for 57 each.......im thinkin i would rather spend 230 n do it myself....n to answer ur question swoope im in southern california......i think im gonna go check out norco mazda there more in tune with performance, hell from what i heard through the grapevine they sell n install racing beat parts lol..........im gonna go check them out.........
11-29-2006, 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by dastallion951
went in today to mazda becuz of a consistent misfire ive been gettin at high rpms......apparently i had multiple codes for the CEL...........one being catalytic efficiency code......which i dont care i dont have the cat on there.....lol another bein there was a leak coming from the intake manifold.......which anyone that has put on an aftermarket intake knows the cap thats supposed to be on well mine apparently fell off ........also even the tech admitted that the ignition coils were bad, however there tryin to tell me that becuz of the recall prior i had all that stuff on, had to go back to stock for them to put that stuff on.........now there not going to waranty the ignition coils........n were tryin to sell me new ignition coils, as well as a new cat........they said if i come back for service, that if that stuff is on there, there going to completely void my warrantee...........they cant do that.........anyone else have a similar problem with any mazda dealership.........i didnt know they could void the warranty, for a customer complaint that had nothing to do with aftermarket parts put on the car.........???? can i get some advice please ......... thanx
........also even the tech admitted that the ignition coils were bad, however there tryin to tell me that becuz of the recall prior i had all that stuff on, had to go back to stock for them to put that stuff on.........now there not going to waranty the ignition coils........n were tryin to sell me new ignition coils, as well as a new cat........they said if i come back for service, that if that stuff is on there, there going to completely void my warrantee...........they cant do that.........anyone else have a similar problem with any mazda dealership.........i didnt know they could void the warranty, for a customer complaint that had nothing to do with aftermarket parts put on the car.........???? can i get some advice please ......... thanx
11-29-2006, 07:53 AM
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ill tell u phil whats up theres a mazda out here in norco, which is in southern cali that sells racing beat products n installs them................so, im gonna hit them up n see if they can replace my ignition coils wihtout having to have me go back to stock........so ill keep everyone posted.......in case they dont cover it, swoope wheres the website where u can get the new coils for 25 each...........only place i found were mazdatrix n they wanted like 57 each........r they oem or aftermarket coils???
11-29-2006, 08:18 AM
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Unless you change some Emission equipment. Theres no reason for them not to do the recall on the car, its EMISSION recall. they have to do it.
put the Cat back on, thats all.
and yes the new coils are 25 bux each. fight the warranty thing till death.
put the Cat back on, thats all.
and yes the new coils are 25 bux each. fight the warranty thing till death.
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11-29-2006, 11:03 AM
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its all good............i called norco mazda, n there gonna have to diagnose n verify the complaint, but there ordering 4 ignition coils for me theyll be in tomorrow afternoon, then im gonna bring the car down n have them check it out............they r gonna cover the ignition coils under warranty............. swoopy here are the codes i promised u........
P0171 System too Lean: Red Cap came off vacuum port on intake manifold.
P0420 Cat Efficiency below threshold: Or I should say lack of CAT.
U2616 Wheel Unit Not Responding: When the Inside Sidewall of my Rear Left Tire Shredded From High Speed and bad alignment.
P0300 Random Misfires
P0171 System too Lean: Red Cap came off vacuum port on intake manifold.
P0420 Cat Efficiency below threshold: Or I should say lack of CAT.
U2616 Wheel Unit Not Responding: When the Inside Sidewall of my Rear Left Tire Shredded From High Speed and bad alignment.
P0300 Random Misfires
11-29-2006, 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by dastallion951
its all good............i called norco mazda, n there gonna have to diagnose n verify the complaint, but there ordering 4 ignition coils for me theyll be in tomorrow afternoon, then im gonna bring the car down n have them check it out............they r gonna cover the ignition coils under warranty............. swoopy here are the codes i promised u........
P0171 System too Lean: Red Cap came off vacuum port on intake manifold.
P0420 Cat Efficiency below threshold: Or I should say lack of CAT.
U2616 Wheel Unit Not Responding: When the Inside Sidewall of my Rear Left Tire Shredded From High Speed and bad alignment.
P0300 Random Misfires
P0171 System too Lean: Red Cap came off vacuum port on intake manifold.
P0420 Cat Efficiency below threshold: Or I should say lack of CAT.
U2616 Wheel Unit Not Responding: When the Inside Sidewall of my Rear Left Tire Shredded From High Speed and bad alignment.
P0300 Random Misfires
red cap off bad!
cat eff below threshold. might be a leftover code from when you had the cat on... i would put it back on to find out... they are like 1200 bucks.
wheel unit dont have a clue..
radom misfire, i would bet money you get new coils...
best of luck..
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11-29-2006, 09:08 PM
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yea i know so since riverside mazda didnt do a thing for me............i had the stock intake on i put the rb intake back on.......n then made a temporary fix until i get another cap for the vacuum port........as for the cat code..........i just did the negative cable remove from battery for 30 seconds........cleared all codes.......now im not worried about it...........hopefully all goes well with norco mazda n if so i found my new dealer im goin too........only about 10-15 miles out of the way.........
11-29-2006, 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by dastallion951
yea i know so since riverside mazda didnt do a thing for me............i had the stock intake on i put the rb intake back on.......n then made a temporary fix until i get another cap for the vacuum port........as for the cat code..........i just did the negative cable remove from battery for 30 seconds........cleared all codes.......now im not worried about it...........hopefully all goes well with norco mazda n if so i found my new dealer im goin too........only about 10-15 miles out of the way.........
neg cable will not clear codes.. might clear cel, but the codes are still in the ecu...
and yes i hope it goes well also...
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U2616 Wheel Unit Not Responding: When the Inside Sidewall of my Rear Left Tire Shredded From High Speed and bad alignment
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As always, any insight is greatly appreciated,
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