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Old Jul 3, 2013 | 02:12 PM
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second gear grind

hey guys, I've done research about this and I've seen many different posts but i couldn't find one similar to mine.
04 MT 77k miles

My car grinds into second gear in high rpms and it has done it before but it went away. just recently I flashed my ecu into stage 1 and now its starting to happen again today and i reflashed my ecu today. should I just drive slowly until the car gets used to the reflash or what?


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Old Jul 3, 2013 | 04:16 PM
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If you haven;t changed the transmission oil recently, I'd suggest doing it. The reflash is for engine management, not your tranny.
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Old Jul 3, 2013 | 04:19 PM
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As Cro8tia said changing your tunes won't have any affect on the transmission.

As recommended do a transmission oil change, something like Redline MT-90 is a popular choice.

If the problem persists, it could be a pedal position problem or your synchros are going bad.
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Old Jul 3, 2013 | 11:22 PM
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alright ill change the tranny oil. thanks. lets see how this plays


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Old Jul 11, 2013 | 10:01 AM
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alright ill change the tranny oil. thanks. lets see how this plays


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If you haven't already changed the transmission fluid.. check out Amsoil..

I just did a fluid change with their 75w-90, and WOW what a difference. Shifts are so much smoother now and it just feels better.

AMSOIL Manual Transmission & Transaxle Gear Lube 75W-90

Just throwing it out there..

Also, if you haven't done it recently.. you might as well change the diff fluid while you're under there!
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Old Jul 11, 2013 | 10:11 AM
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the clutch free play can be checked, and you can shift slower...
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Old Jul 11, 2013 | 11:41 AM
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shaggyp: the advice given so far is very good.
I would flush the fluids (transmission and differential) with either Eneos or Redline. Based on my personal experience, those are the only fluids I would recommend (aside from OEM)

after that, check your clutch pedal for play and to make sure the welds aren't cracking.

Hopefully that clears up the issue but if it doesn't, the issue is most likely bad synchros and you're in for a rebuild if it keeps getting worse.

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Old Jul 11, 2013 | 11:45 AM
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Eneos 75W90 Gear Oil | Black Halo Racing
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Old Jul 12, 2013 | 11:50 AM
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$90!!??
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Old Jul 12, 2013 | 11:52 AM
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$90 is for 6qts. you can do trans and diff and have enough to do it again
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Old Jul 12, 2013 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 200.mph
$90 is for 6qts. you can do trans and diff and have enough to do it again
Oh ****... Okay that makes sense, I didn't see how many qts it brings so that just left me shocked lol
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Old Jul 12, 2013 | 12:23 PM
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yhea i emailed charles before i bought it. i was thinking the same thing lol
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Old Jul 12, 2013 | 12:43 PM
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75W90 GL5 will destroy your trans, straight 90W GL4 only!

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Old Jul 12, 2013 | 01:00 PM
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I was under the impression you should stay away from RP's GL5 trans oil, not GL5 in general...
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Old Jul 12, 2013 | 01:08 PM
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BHR has a blog post on GL5 on their site i believe.
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Old Jul 12, 2013 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Carbon8
75W90 GL5 will destroy your diff, straight 90W GL4 only!
Originally Posted by Emery_
I was under the impression you should stay away from RP's GL5 trans oil, not GL5 in general...
Yeah, I think there are things getting mixed up here.

GL4 for the transmission, GL5 for the diff.

I've used Redline MT-90 (which is GL4) in all my Mazda transmissions, and Redline 75W90 (which is GL5) in all my Mazda differentials. Zero problems.

People that put GL5 in the transmission have syncro failure within about 10,000 miles. I think the only exception to this is Eneos that BHR sells? It appears to be a GL5.

I don't recall any mention of anyone using GL4 in the diff to know if there have been any diff failures from it. Then again, it's rare we see a diff failure discussed.

Edit: here is the BHR blog post about Eneos: http://black-halo-racing.myshopify.c...eos-75w-90-uoa

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Old Jul 12, 2013 | 01:23 PM
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thanks guys. ive been running it in my trans and diff over a year now. i did keck03s last year too. he drives a lot more than me and hes sced
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Old Jul 12, 2013 | 01:29 PM
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To determine if synchros are the cause as opposed to perhaps dogteeth lubrication, try double clutching. If it removes the problem altogether by doing that, it may be that the synchros are on the way out.
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Old Sep 5, 2013 | 04:50 PM
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Just to update. I changed the oil and at first it still grinded but after a while of driving it went away . Thanks
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