Problem with Air pump
05-08-2011, 12:35 PM
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Problem with Air pump
Hi I have problem with my air pump when the car is cold and I turn my key to ignition air pump its starts on and turn off and this same for about 3 times i don't know what is the problem I read at google thet could be air pump relay but I can't find it at my car can somebody tell me where can I find "air pump relay"
video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XF-25Z_2f8
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We have replace this:
-pcm and EVERYTHING what is in this black box
-THROTTLE (BAFFLING; SPROCKET; BUTTERFLY)
-Battery
And still nothing
I can Add this:
When You turn key to on position You can hear from THROTTLE and RELAY fuel (from transmiter box) knock, knock,.... for about 5 sek. when you turn your key on (when car Is hot)
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Car stats but for about 1-2 min when the air pump must be on car do noise something like more bas but when you wait 2 min something is turning off and car sound normaly.
I can tell then where you turn your key on U can hear the something is opening and closing the same way act air pomp is turning on and off and on and off ... and when I turn my key off and put it out the air pump is turning on again... U can''t see thet at my video but whne you are trurning key to on •tachometer is up to about 2000 and when You whant to start a car It's starts but for about 3 sec. its runing like it was a floded - when I turn off air pump car starts normy without any floding
video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XF-25Z_2f8
Sory for bad english.
Add>
We have replace this:
-pcm and EVERYTHING what is in this black box
-THROTTLE (BAFFLING; SPROCKET; BUTTERFLY)
-Battery
And still nothing
I can Add this:
When You turn key to on position You can hear from THROTTLE and RELAY fuel (from transmiter box) knock, knock,.... for about 5 sek. when you turn your key on (when car Is hot)
add>
Car stats but for about 1-2 min when the air pump must be on car do noise something like more bas but when you wait 2 min something is turning off and car sound normaly.
I can tell then where you turn your key on U can hear the something is opening and closing the same way act air pomp is turning on and off and on and off ... and when I turn my key off and put it out the air pump is turning on again... U can''t see thet at my video but whne you are trurning key to on •tachometer is up to about 2000 and when You whant to start a car It's starts but for about 3 sec. its runing like it was a floded - when I turn off air pump car starts normy without any floding
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05-08-2011, 12:39 PM
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Air pump is only used for emission in order to heat up the cat(catalytic converter) and is usually on for no more than 2-3 minutes(if that) on initial start-up.
The reality is, you don't even really need it and if you do a search, you will find ways to take it out.
Does that answer your questions? When it goes bad, it usually whines pretty well.
I'll post a link for you in a moment, I gotta go find it.
This two will give you some info, so read through them.
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...light=air+pump
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...light=air+pump
The reality is, you don't even really need it and if you do a search, you will find ways to take it out.
Does that answer your questions? When it goes bad, it usually whines pretty well.
I'll post a link for you in a moment, I gotta go find it.
This two will give you some info, so read through them.
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...light=air+pump
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...light=air+pump
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05-08-2011, 02:32 PM
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The true reality is that it's needed if you care about air quality and accept responsibility in doing your part to minimize impacting the environment any more than you can.
More often than not they are easily repaired if you have some basic mechanical ability:
https://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php...6&postcount=45
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More often than not they are easily repaired if you have some basic mechanical ability:
https://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php...6&postcount=45
.
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05-08-2011, 02:58 PM
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I will tomarow give u a video about my problem becose when I turn key everything is going mad 
for my it's look like pcm thing the car is running and turning air pump on and off and when I whant to start a car its look like a lite bit floodet
for my it's look like pcm thing the car is running and turning air pump on and off and when I whant to start a car its look like a lite bit floodet
05-09-2011, 03:51 AM
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this is my video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XF-25Z_2f8
06-08-2011, 12:43 PM
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The air pump relay is located where the PCM/ECU is, under the black plastic cover in the left front corner of the engine bay , it has 4 heavy wires , Red , Black with yellow stripe , and 2 Black wires. It is about 2"x2" square , it is not a "normal" type of relay. If you can access a workshop manual , there is a procedure to test said relay.
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Does this car run?
Can you start it?
Like Dan says............we hear the air pump working(although noisy) so it's a 99.9% chance it ain't the pump relay!
Can you start it?
Like Dan says............we hear the air pump working(although noisy) so it's a 99.9% chance it ain't the pump relay!
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06-10-2011, 01:51 AM
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Car stats but for about 1-2 min when the air pump must be on car do noise something like more bas but when you wait 2 min something is turning off and car sound normaly.
I can tell then where you turn your key on U can hear the something is opening and closing the same way act air pomp is turning on and off and on and off ... and when I turn my key off and put it out the air pump is turning on again... U can''t see thet at my video but whne you are trurning key to on •tachometer is up to about 2000 and when You whant to start a car It's starts but for about 3 sec. its runing like it was a floded - when I turn off air pump car starts normy without any floding
I can tell then where you turn your key on U can hear the something is opening and closing the same way act air pomp is turning on and off and on and off ... and when I turn my key off and put it out the air pump is turning on again... U can''t see thet at my video but whne you are trurning key to on •tachometer is up to about 2000 and when You whant to start a car It's starts but for about 3 sec. its runing like it was a floded - when I turn off air pump car starts normy without any floding
06-14-2011, 09:02 AM
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We have replace this:
-pcm and EVERYTHING what is in this black box
-THROTTLE (BAFFLING; SPROCKET; BUTTERFLY)
-Battery
And still nothing
I can Add this:
When You turn key to on position You can hear from THROTTLE and RELAY fuel (from transmiter box) knock, knock,.... for about 5 sek. when you turn your key on (when car Is hot)
-pcm and EVERYTHING what is in this black box
-THROTTLE (BAFFLING; SPROCKET; BUTTERFLY)
-Battery
And still nothing
I can Add this:
When You turn key to on position You can hear from THROTTLE and RELAY fuel (from transmiter box) knock, knock,.... for about 5 sek. when you turn your key on (when car Is hot)
06-14-2011, 03:45 PM
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CRO8TIA you are telling me the air pump will start before I start engine? Please take look at my video You will see there my problem: I put key turn to ingnition and wait 5 sek and in this 5 sek air pump is turning on and turning off this is taking about 3 times and when rpm are at 0-1000 this is normal?? I thing thet isn't good reation
when I start my engine at cold air pump works about 2 min and normaly turn off this for my is normaln when I start engine pump turn on But when I whant to start engine without crancing pump starts and turn off .
when I start my engine at cold air pump works about 2 min and normaly turn off this for my is normaln when I start engine pump turn on But when I whant to start engine without crancing pump starts and turn off .
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What I gather is this.....................car operates(runs normally) as does the air pump when he jumps in and starts it like normal.
He seems to indicate that turning the ignition to "on" when cold........but not cranking it over results in the air pump starting and stopping about every three seconds. (I'm not sure if this is normal or not?????) I've never tried it.......I guess I could and see........maybe this weekend.
Anyway.................he seems to also hear some knocking or ticking under this same condition and this could very well be the relay for the air pump as it cycles in that same approx. 3 second rate. He last said he hears a "knock knock from THROTTLE and from RELAY fuel (from transmiter box)" and I think this may be normal as well with the various checks and stuff that the computer/car would be doing at this point in time, but I'm not really sure. Guess someone needs to go turn on their car when cold(without starting) and see what all happens.
Is that what everybody else is sort of understanding to this point or did I totally mess it up?
He seems to indicate that turning the ignition to "on" when cold........but not cranking it over results in the air pump starting and stopping about every three seconds. (I'm not sure if this is normal or not?????) I've never tried it.......I guess I could and see........maybe this weekend.
Anyway.................he seems to also hear some knocking or ticking under this same condition and this could very well be the relay for the air pump as it cycles in that same approx. 3 second rate. He last said he hears a "knock knock from THROTTLE and from RELAY fuel (from transmiter box)" and I think this may be normal as well with the various checks and stuff that the computer/car would be doing at this point in time, but I'm not really sure. Guess someone needs to go turn on their car when cold(without starting) and see what all happens.
Is that what everybody else is sort of understanding to this point or did I totally mess it up?
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06-16-2011, 01:56 AM
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mazurfer everything you write is ok but I must add : when I whant start car and I turn key to on (no cracking) I hear knock knock EXACTLY in this same time when Air Pump is turning on and off. I have do this procedure for about 2 mayby 3 times and my car have problem with start it's look like engine was floded but is starts.
The problem with air pump stars about 20.04.2011 I never before HEAR something like air pump or anything before
The problem with air pump stars about 20.04.2011 I never before HEAR something like air pump or anything before