P2259 - Locating the AIR Solenoid
02-28-2011, 11:51 AM
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p2259
Even if you know the code is P2259 (AZ or ADV) it doesn't tell you if it's a short, a dirty valve or a bad solenoid valve AND it's a dealer only part.
So you have to pay the dealer $113 to receive the code you all ready know P2259 which is not charged if you need an actual fix.
Part #KL01-18-741 Solenoid Valve $144.83 (+ tax)
Labor to evaluate 3 conditions (3 hours) causing this code and disassemblle intake $329.85 "Replace Secondary Air Valve"
Okay they are into you now for $474.68 plus some tax.
Sounds terrible right?!
So since you paid to open up the intake it's only $140 more for a complete ZFIS Fuel Induction Service.
So for $614 + some tax you are out the door with a car wash and your car runs alot better for another 60,000 miles.
Alot of people on this board will laugh at spending that much for what "to them" is a "piece of cake". I'll do most mechanical work as FL cars don't have the rust we used to fight up North but I don't like electrical/computer repairs or bending my body into weird shapes. I'm too old to not just enjoy my ride.
Anyhow there you have it. Current prices from a FL dealer as of today. BUT the car runs awesome closer to scary fast than just plain fast!!!
So you have to pay the dealer $113 to receive the code you all ready know P2259 which is not charged if you need an actual fix.
Part #KL01-18-741 Solenoid Valve $144.83 (+ tax)
Labor to evaluate 3 conditions (3 hours) causing this code and disassemblle intake $329.85 "Replace Secondary Air Valve"
Okay they are into you now for $474.68 plus some tax.
Sounds terrible right?!
So since you paid to open up the intake it's only $140 more for a complete ZFIS Fuel Induction Service.
So for $614 + some tax you are out the door with a car wash and your car runs alot better for another 60,000 miles.
Alot of people on this board will laugh at spending that much for what "to them" is a "piece of cake". I'll do most mechanical work as FL cars don't have the rust we used to fight up North but I don't like electrical/computer repairs or bending my body into weird shapes. I'm too old to not just enjoy my ride.
Anyhow there you have it. Current prices from a FL dealer as of today. BUT the car runs awesome closer to scary fast than just plain fast!!!
My car is showing (as of this morning) p0301 (replaced plugs already and have coils ordered), p2004 (When I turn ignition, I hear APV motor turn, so I guess it is just off track???) and final code is p2259 ( so I must take UIM off and basically check wiring harness on air solenoid valve? and while in there go ahead and clean the SSV?) Is this procedure easy enough using this video for a rookie mechanix to do?
Any help please.
02-28-2011, 09:00 PM
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My car is showing (as of this morning) p0301 (replaced plugs already and have coils ordered), p2004 (When I turn ignition, I hear APV motor turn, so I guess it is just off track???) and final code is p2259 ( so I must take UIM off and basically check wiring harness on air solenoid valve? and while in there go ahead and clean the SSV?) Is this procedure easy enough using this video for a rookie mechanix to do?
What are your symptoms? My symptoms resulting in my CEL codes are excessive fuel use, idling rough (or stalls) and weird smell.
Any help please.
What are your symptoms? My symptoms resulting in my CEL codes are excessive fuel use, idling rough (or stalls) and weird smell.
Any help please.
05-14-2011, 02:09 PM
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Stupid question on replacing the AIR Solenoid
I found this thread after doing a search on my P2259 code. First, great info here everyone and MANY thanks!!
So, now I want to check this solenoid....my stupid first question is:
I've never taken off the manifold extension before. What do I need to do to do this? One engine guide talked about needing to drain all of the coolant first. Do I need to do this or can I just take off the extension?
Thanks for your patience! I'm a newbie at this.
So, now I want to check this solenoid....my stupid first question is:
I've never taken off the manifold extension before. What do I need to do to do this? One engine guide talked about needing to drain all of the coolant first. Do I need to do this or can I just take off the extension?
Thanks for your patience! I'm a newbie at this.
05-14-2011, 10:18 PM
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Then let me be the first to mention that this site has a 'search' feature at the top.
Some people say its not useful... but I have to use it to find the threads they seem unable to find.
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...ght=remove+uim
Some people say its not useful... but I have to use it to find the threads they seem unable to find.
06-18-2011, 07:14 AM
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im having issues now with this. Dealer says I need three of such code: KL0118741
Thats how I found the thread. Its helping a lot. I'm going to attempt this myself. Dealer wants to charge $600+
Any one know where these all go?
I see the one in the rear of the UIM. but how about the other two solenoids?
Thats how I found the thread. Its helping a lot. I'm going to attempt this myself. Dealer wants to charge $600+
Any one know where these all go?
I see the one in the rear of the UIM. but how about the other two solenoids?
06-18-2011, 07:23 AM
#36
Thanks I saw that. But I'm still confused a little.
Now is this part number a solenoid valve? connector?(in the pic it looks like a connector).
Since I need three of them they said. I would guess they are all the same (Duh).
Now in that pic I see the Air Solenoid, Purge Solenoid, The 3rd would be the SSV solenoid? And they are all the same?
Im all confused lol.
Now is this part number a solenoid valve? connector?(in the pic it looks like a connector).
Since I need three of them they said. I would guess they are all the same (Duh).
Now in that pic I see the Air Solenoid, Purge Solenoid, The 3rd would be the SSV solenoid? And they are all the same?
Im all confused lol.
06-18-2011, 07:28 AM
#37
We often swap the solenoids around as a means of troubleshooting.
You can test/verify the solenoids if you like.
Top = AIR
Middle = SSV
Bottom = VDI
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06-18-2011, 07:36 AM
#38
That part number is for the valve itself
Yes... they are all the same and interchangeable, but unlikely they all went bad together.
We often swap the solenoids around as a means of troubleshooting.
You can test/verify the solenoids if you like.
Have to look closer at the pic, but the solenoid location order is:
Top = AIR
Middle = SSV
Bottom = VDI
Yes... they are all the same and interchangeable, but unlikely they all went bad together.
We often swap the solenoids around as a means of troubleshooting.
You can test/verify the solenoids if you like.
Have to look closer at the pic, but the solenoid location order is:
Top = AIR
Middle = SSV
Bottom = VDI
Thank you for replying so fast. Really man thanks.
I'm looking at the picture. And i guess they are all right next to each other right?
One on top of the other?
The dealer told me I needed to replace all three.
(I think they were damaged due to water getting in there btw)
This is the dealer (teknics) works for that told me this. But I'm just a regular guy, and right now they have my car and are telling me to fix the issues it has right now is going to cost me over 2k. I was like WTF. So I'm going to try and attempt to fix some of the problems myself with the help of some forum members.
06-18-2011, 07:47 AM
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Yup.
Here is a pic from RR's tear-down thread that shows the solenoids in their location:
Obviously... they are the three stacked devices on the left side.
I've chatted with him in the past... good guy, but not sure how the dealer overall is.
But since you'll have the solenoids out, its easy to test them before forking out hundreds of dollars for 3 solenoids:
https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-do-yourself-forum-73/diy-test-solenoid-190364/
Its known that moisture can be a problem with the connectors, and usually disconnecting the connector and spraying with electric cleaner takes care of that.
Just some food for thought...
Here is a pic from RR's tear-down thread that shows the solenoids in their location:
Obviously... they are the three stacked devices on the left side.
But since you'll have the solenoids out, its easy to test them before forking out hundreds of dollars for 3 solenoids:
https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-do-yourself-forum-73/diy-test-solenoid-190364/
Its known that moisture can be a problem with the connectors, and usually disconnecting the connector and spraying with electric cleaner takes care of that.
Just some food for thought...
06-18-2011, 07:51 AM
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Yup.
Here is a pic from RR's tear-down thread that shows the solenoids in their location:
Attachment 173348
Obviously... they are the three stacked devices on the left side.
I've chatted with him in the past... good guy, but not sure how the dealer overall is.
But since you'll have the solenoids out, its easy to test them before forking out hundreds of dollars for 3 solenoids:
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=190364
Its known that moisture can be a problem with the connectors, and usually disconnecting the connector and spraying with electric cleaner takes care of that.
Just some food for thought...
Here is a pic from RR's tear-down thread that shows the solenoids in their location:
Attachment 173348
Obviously... they are the three stacked devices on the left side.
I've chatted with him in the past... good guy, but not sure how the dealer overall is.
But since you'll have the solenoids out, its easy to test them before forking out hundreds of dollars for 3 solenoids:
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=190364
Its known that moisture can be a problem with the connectors, and usually disconnecting the connector and spraying with electric cleaner takes care of that.
Just some food for thought...
Thanks man your awesome...
I'm not really electrically car in-tuned. But I will search on how to test them..
One more question. Do you recommend taking out and cleaning the SSV Valve. From searching i've read it tends to get stuck with age? Can sea-foam do this?
06-18-2011, 07:54 AM
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As Jon said...........one on top of the other in the order listed.
I too agree that it's highly unlikely that they all three went bad at the same time, even if the issue was supposedly water. I'd like to know how you think got that much water involved?
I too agree that it's highly unlikely that they all three went bad at the same time, even if the issue was supposedly water. I'd like to know how you think got that much water involved?
06-18-2011, 08:00 AM
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If you don't mind working on your car, and can patiently spend several hours taking your time, then I say go for it!
Nope
Ask and you shall receive:
https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-do-yourself-forum-73/diy-remove-ssv-beta-teaser-video-184663/
06-18-2011, 08:03 AM
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Depends on the person...
If you don't mind working on your car, and can patiently spend several hours taking your time, then I say go for it!
Nope
Ask and you shall receive:
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=184663
If you don't mind working on your car, and can patiently spend several hours taking your time, then I say go for it!
Nope
Ask and you shall receive:
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=184663
06-18-2011, 08:17 AM
#50
Will do. I'm always taking pictures. So I'm going to document this DIY. The bigest DIY ever for me.
Changing: Pilot bearing, Release bearing, Shifter seal(part#v60117571A) which I can't find online smh, left & right motor mounts, and the three Solenoids. Oh and ignition wires.
Changing: Pilot bearing, Release bearing, Shifter seal(part#v60117571A) which I can't find online smh, left & right motor mounts, and the three Solenoids. Oh and ignition wires.