carbonRX8

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w. o. w.

Unbelievable. I read this thread last week and put it out of my mind. I was wondering why it was still hanging around. just wow.

The title of this thread needs to be changed to:
"My car is dead .Stealership giving me the run around .Then they torched my car .Now they are applying KY jelly so that I can take a HUGE one up the *** ."

Mazurfer

Me too! Holy F'ing crap!
Ah yeah, don't re-use that fuel line. Filed that one away in the old noggin!
Looks like they didn't have a fire extinguisher handy either!

olddragger

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The trouble with that particular line is this.
the plastic clips that have to be expanded to release and to reinstall become a little streached when doing so. This line is the only fuel line that has a very small red fitting down in one side of the connectors that is held in place by the plastic clip. If that clip is not tight enough then then that red sealer/spacer can work its way out causing a large fuel leak that pools in the space between the lim and engine block. There are several rather large spaces down there. Pooled gas on a hot engine /exhaust side is a disaster in the making--so when fire occurs its not just a little fire---its big.
This line actually moves just a little with changing fuel pressures and that is how that red spacer can work itself free if that clip is not good and tight. Its a very poor design.
Not only do i have a new one but i also have dremeled a notch on the clip so i can put a zip tie around it and it wont slip off.
I lost an engine due to that 2 cent peice. That leak made one rotor go lean. I was lucky it did not catch fire.

dondo

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OD, do you have a copy of where it says not to reuse that line? i'm getting a motor replaced by the dealer and they said they were gonna reuse it so I ordered a new one for them to install but if they have to pay for it that's even better! it was like 35 or 40 bucks for a new one.

pdxhak

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Oh man I'm sick to my stomach looking at this thread. OD or dondo send me that info as well...

genjuromikos

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Yea no fire extinguisher because it was about a mile from the dealership when they test drove it. The fire department had to come put it out.

I have every receipt for every part on that vehicle they better reimburse me for all of it even if that part is not damaged its still a part of the car and totaled

terch1

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I'd fight for a brand new 8. Come on Mazda has tons of money. They don't need their name smeared by an accident like this. Let us know what happens.

Mazurfer

^................ah.............I was wondering if it was on the test drive or sitting in the parking lot. That explains a lot!

Good you have all the receipts.......don't settle too quickly without knowing all your options.

Mazurfer

Even though it may be a crappy design by Mazda Engineers, this is gonna fall on the dealership and not Mazda.

genjuromikos

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So I have receipts for every single part on this car it totals almost 9000. I'm still waiting for insurance estimates. Does anybody know if insurance should be paying for those parts? I think they should and even if some of the parts are old shouldn't they pay me for what I paid for the parts. Because if I were to buy the parts today like the Mazda speed parts it would still cost me the same as if I bought it two years ago.

So shouldn't I get the full value and not some depreciated value for the parts? I should have a car rebuilt to exactly how I brought it in. I went in with a car with these parts, I should leave with a car with all these parts. Don't you think?

Razz1

Insurance companies do not cover add ons and Mods.

You have to buy special insurance for that.

genjuromikos

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Even if its not my fault? When the dealership is the one that blew up the car shouldn't their insurance cover it?

dannobre

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Not necessarily true ...depends on your policy....

pdxhak

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Think that is true for your personal insurance and not the case with another insurance company. The dealership's insurance company is on the hook for replacement.

dannobre

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I would be damn hard on them...

pdxhak

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Yes they need to cover it. Your insurance only needs to get involved if the dealership's insurance company gives you the run around. You let your company know and then they will they will talk to them and get your money.

pdxhak

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Also the other insurance company needs to provide you with a rental car until all this is resolved.

genjuromikos

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I think the dealerships insurance should pay everything and if not then what. Legal action?

Say the car is worth 10000 and I still owe 7000 that leaves me with 3000. How do I go to a dealership with a car complete with 9000 dollars worth of parts and leave with only 3000 bucks. That's just not right. I can by another 8 but would have to spend another 9000 to get the new 8 to that same condition. That's really not right. I should get the 3000 after paying the bank 7000 and 9000 on top of that. That's what I think.

pdxhak

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I do not believe this is the same as your insurance company making the decision to total it. You are the victim. The dealership is at fault and their insurance has to cover the damages. They need to either repair your car to the state it was when you turned it over to the dealership or they need to compensate you for any losses.

genjuromikos

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I agree.. I think for your insurance you have to report it to then ahead of time so it adds value to the car. But since I'm not at fault the dealership insurance should cover everything.

nycgps

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Not when he is claiming their insurance

he can claim pretty much everything he want (with proof)

I got my bumpers (front + rear, with different insurance company) replaced.just need to fax them the receipts

and in this case ... it is 100% dealership's fault.

So what he can do is, get ready with all your papers (mods, whatever), and demand another car Exactly the way it was. or better, NOT LESS.

dondo

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you can also get your mods covered on your own insurance if you want. some don't offer this but mine does

RIWWP

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Different insurance companies handle mods differently. Some require additional coverage, some just need it claimed. Most apply the value to the car, but at an accelerated depreciation rate, and/or recognize that modding removes value from the car if you were to attempt to sell it.


But in this case, claiming the mods is with the dealer's insurance company, and has nothing to do with your insurance company. Your insurance company just needs to know that you are canceling the policy on it (I am assuming you are, that will be a salvage title that won't get cleared, and will cripple your car's value, even to your own insurance company if you don't plan on selling it ever). The dealership's insurance company is on the hook for everything, and needs to 'make you whole'.


There isn't a clear cut math calculation to achieve that. It will require negotiation between you and the dealer's insurance company to settle on what will satisfy you.

xpingux

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Jesus H. Christ, there's a lot of misinformation in here.


This isn't a collision. This does not come under the OP's insurance. The whole point of insurance is to indemnify (put back financially in the same position as he was before the accident) the person. That means that he should have the amount for all the mods, the car, and anything inside of it (clothing, video games, whatever) should be covered.


Now I think if it's salvagable (let's say rear bumper, because it doesn't look like the car took fire damage anywhere beyond the front clip), they wouldn't cover him for that, because it's not a loss. So whatever was damaged (car, strutbar, front bumper, rims maybe) would be replaced or compensated for.


Unfortunately, if you're just getting cash they'll give you less than brand new value. HOWEVER, if you end up buying the same item, they usually end up giving you the remaining amount.


Insurance practises and procedures 101 : D

I r insurance n00b, mind you. So I might have miffed it up a bit.

genjuromikos

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Now what if the parts are still salvagable but the car is considered a total loss..I can't reuse those parts, say if i were to get a different car or something. Shouldn't everything, even if its not damaged considered a loss?