My 8 won't start HELP!
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My 8 won't start HELP!
Ok I just got home 11:30 at night and I was hoping that I can go home since my 8 was parked in my Uncle's garage for a week. I'm in MD (hate cold weather!) Tried to start it it wants to start but it won't catch. I seriously want to go home tonight and I dont feel like I want to have my car in a flat bed tomorrow. But it seems like I'm going to go in this directions. So if anyone have any idea on how to start this damn car pls you may.
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A couple of things first....
1) Is it really cold in the garage?
2) How much gas is in the car? (low gas in cold weather can lead to condensation)
3) Did you depress the accelerator to try and start it? (Please tell me you didn't.)
It seems that you have posted a number of times, so you probably know about the cold starting issue, and flooding that people have had. The only thing I can think of...its its really cold in the garage, try and warm it up. If you use a space heater or something, make sure its not too close to anything....wouldnt want a fire.
1) Is it really cold in the garage?
2) How much gas is in the car? (low gas in cold weather can lead to condensation)
3) Did you depress the accelerator to try and start it? (Please tell me you didn't.)
It seems that you have posted a number of times, so you probably know about the cold starting issue, and flooding that people have had. The only thing I can think of...its its really cold in the garage, try and warm it up. If you use a space heater or something, make sure its not too close to anything....wouldnt want a fire.
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hmmm not sure why it woudl have a cold start problem it isn't taht cold out side in md/va today or even this week so i doubt that is it
don't think it's flooded either...not sure but i don't think i've ever read of a auto getting flooded (granted 9 out of 10 rx-8
s is a manuel)
don't think it's flooded either...not sure but i don't think i've ever read of a auto getting flooded (granted 9 out of 10 rx-8
s is a manuel)
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I had heard that you should not pump the accelerator during starting....so I was leary about the dechoking method....but I found the TSB for this, and it is indeed true. Holding the accelerator to the floor will prevent the pumping of fuel during cranking.....
See this pdf... http://www.finishlineperformance.com...1-04-1273d.pdf
Good luck.
See this pdf... http://www.finishlineperformance.com...1-04-1273d.pdf
Good luck.
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Originally Posted by Maolin34
A couple of things first....
1) Is it really cold in the garage?
2) How much gas is in the car? (low gas in cold weather can lead to condensation)
3) Did you depress the accelerator to try and start it? (Please tell me you didn't.)
It seems that you have posted a number of times, so you probably know about the cold starting issue, and flooding that people have had. The only thing I can think of...its its really cold in the garage, try and warm it up. If you use a space heater or something, make sure its not too close to anything....wouldnt want a fire.
1) Is it really cold in the garage?
2) How much gas is in the car? (low gas in cold weather can lead to condensation)
3) Did you depress the accelerator to try and start it? (Please tell me you didn't.)
It seems that you have posted a number of times, so you probably know about the cold starting issue, and flooding that people have had. The only thing I can think of...its its really cold in the garage, try and warm it up. If you use a space heater or something, make sure its not too close to anything....wouldnt want a fire.
This is the very first time that I couldnt start my car. If I cant start it tomorrow taking it to the shop and sell it while I'm a it. 5 months old car and this I dont think so. Problem like this in 5 months I could just imagine how its gonna be like after a year. BS
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How long did you crank the engine? In cold weathers, it might take longer than 4-5 secs. Try did emergency startup with the gas to the floor?
I tried that once because I shut down cold even though I reved my engine before shutting down and the car wouldn't start. So I started normally and it worked! Guess the engine wouldn't start if there's no gas in there. :p
I tried that once because I shut down cold even though I reved my engine before shutting down and the car wouldn't start. So I started normally and it worked! Guess the engine wouldn't start if there's no gas in there. :p
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If it sat for a week in cold weather, I suspect the battery is weak. The 8's battery is marginal to begin with and it seems to draw a lot of juice just sitting.
As mentioned above, try jumping it or a battery booster.
As mentioned above, try jumping it or a battery booster.
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Originally Posted by Blue87Sport
If it sat for a week in cold weather, I suspect the battery is weak. The 8's battery is marginal to begin with and it seems to draw a lot of juice just sitting.
As mentioned above, try jumping it or a battery booster.
As mentioned above, try jumping it or a battery booster.
Ok I willl tomorrow morning I hope this works. Or else bring on the bat and start beating this stupid car!!!
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this JUST happened to me.......flooding during -15F degree temps...
I need a jump start unit, fully charged, and work on it for 20 minutes using the NEW flooding procedure....it will work don't worry Sllly, your cars fine the starter unit is a champ
here is a copy of the letter from Mazda just for your reference:
I need a jump start unit, fully charged, and work on it for 20 minutes using the NEW flooding procedure....it will work don't worry Sllly, your cars fine the starter unit is a champ
here is a copy of the letter from Mazda just for your reference:
Originally Posted by Mazda North American Operations
November 2004
2004 RX-8 Product Update – Mazda Service Program MSP 04
Dear Mazda Owner:
Mazda Motor Corporation had decided to conduct a service program on 2004 RX-8 vehicles produced before March 12 2004. If you received this notice, your vehicle is included in this program. Affected vehicles may fail to star in cold ambient temperatures or may be hard to start after short distance driving when the engine does not reach normal operating temperature.
Your Mazda dealer will recalibrate your PCM free of charge, bringing your vehicle up to the most updated pass production specifications. This may take approximately 30 minutes to complete. While this not a recall, Mazda recommends making an appointment with your dealer to have your vehicle updated as soon as possible. It is important that you have this update completed to minimize your chance of encountering a problem as cold weather approaches.
The design of the engine ports and a sequential dynamic air intake system help the award winning Mazda Renesis Rotary Engine in your RX-8 provide exceptional performance dynamics and reduce emissions. Because of its unique design, it is important to warm up the engine before shutting it off. Ideally, the engine coolant temperature gauge needle should reach the middle of the normal operating range before shutting off the engine.
To start a flooded engine:
1. Depress and hold the accelerator pedal to the floor and crank the engine for 7 to 8 seconds. This will clear any unburned fuel from the combustion chamber.
2. Release the ignition switch.
3. Release the accelerator pedal and start the engine. If the engine starts while performing Step 1, the engine will rev up. Immediately release the ignition key and remove your foot from the accelerator pedal.
• DO NOT keep holding the ignition switch in the Start position over 10 seconds if the engine does not start. This may result in a weakened or dead battery.
• Avoid racing the engine or driving the vehicle right after starting the engine. Let a recovered flooded engine “recover” for at least 15 minutes before resuming normal driving.
• If the engine still fails to start have your vehicle inspected by your local Mazda dealer.
This procedure has changed since the Owners Manual was printed. If page 7-20 in you manual has not been updated with a correction label, your dealer will apply one with the revised starting procedure at no charge when your PCM is updated.
To locate your nearest Mazda dealer, visit our website at www.MazdaUSA.com or consult your local yellow pages.
In the near future, you will receive a video program detailing the unique characteristics of the rotary engine, including warming the engine to normal operating temperature.
Your satisfaction is a priority for Mazda. We actively work to improve our products and search for solutions to improve your ownership experience. Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience this program may have caused you.
Sincerely,
Mazda North American Operations.
2004 RX-8 Product Update – Mazda Service Program MSP 04
Dear Mazda Owner:
Mazda Motor Corporation had decided to conduct a service program on 2004 RX-8 vehicles produced before March 12 2004. If you received this notice, your vehicle is included in this program. Affected vehicles may fail to star in cold ambient temperatures or may be hard to start after short distance driving when the engine does not reach normal operating temperature.
Your Mazda dealer will recalibrate your PCM free of charge, bringing your vehicle up to the most updated pass production specifications. This may take approximately 30 minutes to complete. While this not a recall, Mazda recommends making an appointment with your dealer to have your vehicle updated as soon as possible. It is important that you have this update completed to minimize your chance of encountering a problem as cold weather approaches.
The design of the engine ports and a sequential dynamic air intake system help the award winning Mazda Renesis Rotary Engine in your RX-8 provide exceptional performance dynamics and reduce emissions. Because of its unique design, it is important to warm up the engine before shutting it off. Ideally, the engine coolant temperature gauge needle should reach the middle of the normal operating range before shutting off the engine.
To start a flooded engine:
1. Depress and hold the accelerator pedal to the floor and crank the engine for 7 to 8 seconds. This will clear any unburned fuel from the combustion chamber.
2. Release the ignition switch.
3. Release the accelerator pedal and start the engine. If the engine starts while performing Step 1, the engine will rev up. Immediately release the ignition key and remove your foot from the accelerator pedal.
• DO NOT keep holding the ignition switch in the Start position over 10 seconds if the engine does not start. This may result in a weakened or dead battery.
• Avoid racing the engine or driving the vehicle right after starting the engine. Let a recovered flooded engine “recover” for at least 15 minutes before resuming normal driving.
• If the engine still fails to start have your vehicle inspected by your local Mazda dealer.
This procedure has changed since the Owners Manual was printed. If page 7-20 in you manual has not been updated with a correction label, your dealer will apply one with the revised starting procedure at no charge when your PCM is updated.
To locate your nearest Mazda dealer, visit our website at www.MazdaUSA.com or consult your local yellow pages.
In the near future, you will receive a video program detailing the unique characteristics of the rotary engine, including warming the engine to normal operating temperature.
Your satisfaction is a priority for Mazda. We actively work to improve our products and search for solutions to improve your ownership experience. Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience this program may have caused you.
Sincerely,
Mazda North American Operations.
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They fixed my car guess it was flooded. They changed the spark plugs and deflooded the car. I was so impressed with the service at Bill Britt's Mazda after an hour and 45 they got me outta there. Wooo HOOO
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