mantis32

I love my rx8, but to pay this much for a fully loaded car just to have to deal with engine flooding issues in front of your entire family and extended family on Christmas day f*ckin' sucks. Really, it's one thing that the car cranks for minutes before starting when I'm by myself, I can deal with parking lot humiliation, but in front of my family when your car is full of relatives and your car won't start. C'mon.


Well to help those who live in NY who have this issue. I decided to bother my lawyer on his Christmas day and he told me that in the state of NY, you have to take your car to the dealer 4x for the same issue before you can proceed with Lemon Law. Me not knowing about the whole thing. You can then take the dealer to court and they will set an amount and refund that back to you. Sadly I have taken my car to the dealer close to my job to be fixed for this issue more than 4 times, but that all doesn't mean jack, b/c that was not my original dealer. Lesson learned. Sadly I'll be waiting tomorrow morning for a tow truck to arrive to take my car back to the original dealer all so I can get to work late and have my day inconvenienced to find means of travel without a car.

I'm terribly dissapointed with my investment today
And yes, I did make the fatal mistake of moving my car a short distance w/out waiting 10 minutes before shutting it off. But you know what. To pay this much for car, I shouldn't have to worry or deal with this. Maybe if I bought a Kia, but not a Mazda's flagship car. This isn't the first time I'm being towed for flooding. If it happens again, I don't know, maybe I'll rethink the car.

Slick8

You knew it was going to happen since you didn't shutdown properly. Sure, blame everybody but yourself.

shakRpahX8

...I still don't understand how there are still people flooding their cars...

swoope

iTrader: (5)

what flash do you have. have the battery and starter been updated.

beers

Ike

I don't understand why a modern car would have this problem. It's freaking nonsense, I don't care if you start it for 1 second and turn it off, this shouldn't be an issue.

ECHO1

Papapump51

we know how to prevent it...no short trips, end of story, it is part of having a 8. I would ve left the car outside running til it was warm then shut it off. And it will not be a lemon law vehicle Just an FYI.

Sephiroth

riiiiiiiite...



Then sell your car, buy a kia, and gtfo

Papapump51

It is part of owning a 8!Warm up..before shut down... Period. It has been beaten to death on this board to warm up before shut down....

legokcen

I was drinking from one of those coffee cups that said "Caution Hot" on it and I burned myself. How many times can I burn myself before I can sue them for burning me???

Tirminyl

^^ After the first time you can. You did not know it was hot enough to burn you therefore, you are not liable.

BoilerX8

Me thinks Swoope is right. It shouldn't take minutes for the car to start. Have you bothered to ask your dealer about the battery, starter, flash issues which have been talked about forever on this board.

This car has some things you have to deal with and if you can't you shouldn't own it, end of story. Good luck wasting money pursuing your lemon law case. Go buy a Hyundai.

RUmble

I agree with Ike.

I think it's a FLAW for the rx8. I love the rx8, but it is an inconvenience. But of course, most rx8 owners think it's a small price to pay for the other joys the car brings... and I also agree with that. If you're reasonable, and not just blindly in love with the car, you should have SOME compassion with the author of this story.

BoilerX8

Rumble,

I think we do have SOME compassion for him. However, go back and re-read his initial post. He knew there was a good chance of his car flooding by shutting it off cold. Yes, this probably shouldn't happen to most cars out there, but we all know with the 8 if u shut it down cold, u open yourself up to the possibility of flooding.

Yes I am sorry it happened to him on christmas, but it sounds like he has bigger issues if it takes forever to start anyway.

amartin

Add me to the "My car flooded on xmas" group too.

Talk about a STUPID car.

I moved it YESTERDAY (its 80 degrees here) to get my motorcycle out... pulled it back in... went and fed my parents pets.

Today, I had to go back to feed them (they are/were coming over for xmas dinner)..but I had to pick up pies and whatnot, so I "took" the RX-8.

Crank..crank..spudder... plop.

Took me 15+ minutes and a charger to get it started... And yes.. I have the latest flashes and new battery "upgrade".

Bascially, the RX-8 is a piece of sh*t. I will soon be trading it in on something that won't strand me in the middle of no-where... I just thank God that I wasn't camping or somewhere that could have been more serious.

Kid_Icarus

Hmm...never had my car flood on me. It worked fine all of the christmas weekend. Then again I've been use to rotaries since I started out with an rx7 before I bought the 8. Even if it did I wouldn't go around bitching about it since its a known issue about rotaries if you don't take care them. Hell even my rx7 hasn't ever flooded on me. Also wasn't there a video that was supposedly sent out to new rx8 owners about normal care and maintenance?

allmotorRX8

sorry to hear, but i think u and amartin ought to get a different car

cstokes24

It is weird how some have this problem and others don't. My car has never flooded. I have had a couple occasions where it has been driven short distances and shut off. Every now and then I will have a delayed start but no flooding.

NgoRX8

iTrader: (1)

My car has never flooded until it was left in the hands of a bodyshop. Those ASSES! and they still have it and it is still flooded.

swoope

iTrader: (5)

ok i have my 8 for 2 years and 37k miles and i have not managed to flood it yet.

i have many times not warmed it up for 5 min much less than 10 min. other people in my house have backed it out of the driveway and shut it off.

i have done the same to wash it..... never flooded... maybe i am lucky.... guess i should buy a lotto ticket sometime!!!

the people in the cold i have to defer to. i could see that happening, but read the directions!!!

the one in tx, you are a tard or you have a big cup of bad karma following you.

beers

spieder

I have to say that I am amazed at the number people that flood their cars. First of all, I think it does suck to flood out your expensive car, it is very embarrassing. I think someone must have screwed up at Mazda or else they would have shipped with better starters and batteries or had made changes to the design. However, I was taught from the first day I learned to drive that you never start a cold car and then shut it off immediately. That's just a rule of thumb. I let any car I drive warm up a bit before I drive or shut it off. I have personally driven over 400k in 14 years with rotary powered cars and never flooded once. I feel your pain but I can't help thinking that you should have let it warm up a bit.

I was talking to my dealer the other day durign an oil change. He told me the number one reason people flood out is that they push their gas pedal down. DO NOT PUSH THE GAS PEDAL DOWN!. Your car is a port injected engine and does not require it. Just don't touch the gas pedal. I have searched and attached a nice little cold weather driving tip article. Any car can be flooded in the cold.

http://www.canadiandriver.com/winter/030312.htm

Elara

You know, you've now stated this about 100 times on here. You obviously got a defective car, since almost no one else has had as many issues as you have. Quite whining and sell the damn thing, since you hate it so much. I doubt ANYONE has sympathy for someone who continually bitches and moans but is too lazy to do anything about it.

shakRpahX8

where does it ever say the car needs to warm up for 10 min!?
4 min is more than enough.
if you can't even wait 4 min,
rev up the engine a little to help get warmed up

no matter how cold my engine is, shuttin down after reving up, which I always do, became my habit.
every start is nice and clean

playdoh43

I understand that you really love your car and are willing to live with it and I applaude your car enthusiast spirit, however this is unacceptable on mazda's part. if youre willing to live with it and more power to you, but no one should have to deal with this in the first place?

JunJTan

that's why i traded my RX-8 for a different car after i owned it for 10 months, even i lost alot money on the trade. because i got it flooded twice, i hate it. i counldn't get over the flooding even RX-8 has many good things on it, i don't wanna worry about the car can be started or not everytime before i turn the engine on.