HELP!!! engine flooded
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HELP!!! engine flooded
Hi folks as you can prob guess from my distress call my engine has flooded but the strange bit is the fact i only switched the engine off 12 hours ago normally in mine if i leave her for a couple of days she floods but not that quick, anybody got any suggestions what it could be and any solutions would be most helpful.
Thanks
Nick
Thanks
Nick
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my suggestion: get your owner's manual and follow the deflood procedures.
If that doesn't work, do a quick search on this forum and follow the D.I.Y. for deflooding
this leads me to believe its' flooded before
how did you deflood?
why is it flooding after letting it sit for a few days? It sounds to me like you have a weak battery and after a few days there isn't enough power to start the car and you end up flooded.
If that doesn't work, do a quick search on this forum and follow the D.I.Y. for deflooding
Originally Posted by Irish Nick
i leave her for a couple of days she floods but not that quick
how did you deflood?
why is it flooding after letting it sit for a few days? It sounds to me like you have a weak battery and after a few days there isn't enough power to start the car and you end up flooded.
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1 - If you usually have a flooded engine from just letting it sit for a few days, that tells me you have a leaky injector that is slowly puddling gas into the engine. The fact that it shorted that time span that it occurs in means that your ignition and/or your injector leak is getting worse
2 - Read this regarding flooding:
2 - Read this regarding flooding:
Flooding is only a concern if you have a weak ignition system. The problem is, your ignition system usually fails very slowly, so it is a gradual decline. The alert and responsible owner will detect the drop in mileage, the drop in power, the rougher idle, the occasional misfire, and replace their coils, plugs, and wires before it gets bad enough where there is a chance at flooding.
Every single flood I have seen reported for the past year or so ended up coming down to a failing or failed coil or spark plug or spark plug wire. But by then, they also generally have a fried cat that needs to get replaced as well, and possibly an O2 sensor or two. Stay on top of the maintenance (long term included!) and you will wonder what all the fuss was about. Coils ($160 for all 4, 20 minute swap), plugs ($80 for all 4, 10 minute swap), and wires ($50-140, depending on quality, 2 minute swap), should be replaced every 30,000 miles, possibly sooner if you detect something starting to fail, since people have had them fail as early as 8,000 miles or 15,000 miles, though that's rare.
You don't want to shut off while it's cold simply because when the engine is cold, the ECU dumps more fuel into engine to help it warm up, and it leans back once the engine is warm. This extra fuel can make it harder to start an ignition, which a healthy ignition system is perfectly capable of overcoming. Weaken the ignition with failing plugs, coils, wires, alternator, or battery, and you have a flood on your hands, and all the associated problems from that.
Every single flood I have seen reported for the past year or so ended up coming down to a failing or failed coil or spark plug or spark plug wire. But by then, they also generally have a fried cat that needs to get replaced as well, and possibly an O2 sensor or two. Stay on top of the maintenance (long term included!) and you will wonder what all the fuss was about. Coils ($160 for all 4, 20 minute swap), plugs ($80 for all 4, 10 minute swap), and wires ($50-140, depending on quality, 2 minute swap), should be replaced every 30,000 miles, possibly sooner if you detect something starting to fail, since people have had them fail as early as 8,000 miles or 15,000 miles, though that's rare.
You don't want to shut off while it's cold simply because when the engine is cold, the ECU dumps more fuel into engine to help it warm up, and it leans back once the engine is warm. This extra fuel can make it harder to start an ignition, which a healthy ignition system is perfectly capable of overcoming. Weaken the ignition with failing plugs, coils, wires, alternator, or battery, and you have a flood on your hands, and all the associated problems from that.
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Thanks guys last time had to get it taken to a mechanic to drain the engine but the guy didnt know much about rotary engines, i think your on the right idea with the injectors i have noticed the rougher idle but being a noob i put it down to it just being a rotary engine (that'll teach me).
Had the battery on a charger this evening and tried the deflood technique but no joy so will try a new battery, but im guessing she may need new injector(s).
Thanks
Nick
Had the battery on a charger this evening and tried the deflood technique but no joy so will try a new battery, but im guessing she may need new injector(s).
Thanks
Nick
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A new ignition might be needed as well with a rough idle.
One of the recent flood help threads the guy had 2 gummed up spark plugs and 1 broken one, so no deflood procedure was working because he wasn't producing more than 1 spark anyway.
Make sure you check everything out. Ignition failing is common, a maintenance item really, injectors failing is much more rare, though possible.
And it could be both.
One of the recent flood help threads the guy had 2 gummed up spark plugs and 1 broken one, so no deflood procedure was working because he wasn't producing more than 1 spark anyway.
Make sure you check everything out. Ignition failing is common, a maintenance item really, injectors failing is much more rare, though possible.
And it could be both.
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As far as i remember now the last time she flooded they replaced the spark plugs aswell so i think they're ok.
Had another think ther and i have noticed her missing the odd time aswell so i think its narrowed down to the injectors but as you say will get them to check leads and coils aswell.
Cheers
Nick
Had another think ther and i have noticed her missing the odd time aswell so i think its narrowed down to the injectors but as you say will get them to check leads and coils aswell.
Cheers
Nick
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