Originally Posted by redline86 (Post 3743438)

After reading ya'lls post back and forth with various issues I guess I must have gotten the 8 with no problems, or mabe I just maintain my car extremly well...........

Originally Posted by wcs (Post 3743595)

@darkbrew^^^ You just stay on topic
And get your ass over to my place and help me install my reinforced clutch bracket

Originally Posted by zoom44 (Post 3744306)

hey guys. I got in touch with Mazda about when to expect the clutch pedal program to start.

They will launch owner notifications by the middle to the end of next week – the first letters are scheduled to go in the mail by Wednesday the 20th. Owners should follow all instructions in the letter for inspection and repair or reimbursement for expenses incurred over repairs already performed.

Hope that helps calm some people's nerves

Originally Posted by zoom44 (Post 3744306)

hey guys. I got in touch with Mazda about when to expect the clutch pedal program to start.

They will launch owner notifications by the middle to the end of next week – the first letters are scheduled to go in the mail by Wednesday the 20th. Owners should follow all instructions in the letter for inspection and repair or reimbursement for expenses incurred over repairs already performed.

Hope that helps calm some people's nerves

Originally Posted by ASH8 (Post 3742900)

Actually the RX-7 had MORE "issues" than the RX-8...."officially".

Again what do you want for the money you pay...

Go buy a Korean Car with the 100 (10) year warranty, and see what happens when things go wrong at year 6.

READ MY SIG...;)

Originally Posted by nycgps (Post 3742833)

the Rx8's engine didn't screw up. what Mazda failed was the ECU programming.

if u really want to go in depth. Mazda actually did screw up in the FB/FC's engine and its powertrain. for example : S4 Wastegate issue remember? it caused some owners their turbo AND engine. What did Mazda do? Sorry you broke it.

At least now Mazda is willing to cover their engine up to 100K cuz they know their programming screwed up.

my visor is fine, 5 yrs.

Water in tail light, last replacement was 2 yrs ago and so far no issue.

Engine mount (WHAT MOTOR! ITS aN ENGINE DAMN IT!) again, newest mount is doing well.

Clutch pedal -- read zoom's previous post. our car is NOT alone.

not trying to defend this car, but its obvious that all car has their own problems.

Your 7 has no problem? do u own it from day one? I doubt that. the previous owner(s) might have had a lot of work, u just don't know it. new parts in, car sold to you. no issue.

Originally Posted by DarkBrew (Post 3743282)

Sports cars in the traditional sense require more owner involvement. And the dealer techs aren't what they use to be.
Clutch pedal - reinforce it.
Auto dim mirror - the rear wing blocks the sensor. Turn the mirror over and it works better.
Bad idle - motor mounts, Access Port, good maintenance
Sunroof - new version of side rails
Tail lights - new gaskets
Engine - warm it carefully, drive it hard.

This isn't an RX-7.
If it was it would have cost another $15K.
It would have required a turbo to make 230+ HP

You can bitch about it or you can involve yourself with the car, spend a small amount of money and enjoy the experience.

Originally Posted by redline86 (Post 3743438)

After reading ya'lls post back and forth with various issues I guess I must have gotten the 8 with no problems, or mabe I just maintain my car extremly well. I have a 04, no tail light issues, no sun roof issues, no dim mirror issues, clutch pedal no issues and I've checked the welds and are holding just fine and I know what to look for incase it does start to fail, red line almost every day driving to work and back and have no pressure issues, apex seals are holding out great.

Then again, I clean my car all the time, maintain all the weather stripping and rubber components, change my oil every 2k to 2.5k miles with royal purple synthetic 5-30 but soon will be switching to 10-40. I use full lubrication with every fill up and when I don't have it I run and grap a small bottle of some 2 stroke for premix until I can restock with a big bottle of lucas fuil lubricant, will be trying out Pettits Protekt this week when I'm in West Palm to pick some up, I've replaced my diff and trans fluid to royal purple gear oil. I've got 40k and my car has never been in the shop for any problem and runs great with only one exception.

The ignition coils that we all know fail, already addressed the issue before it became a problem with BHRs ignition set.

Lets face it, you might end up with a car with nothing but problems, it is built and designed by people. My father used to work for GM on assembly lines and let me tell you, people work when they are tired, sick, and sometimes when their head is way off in space, you might be the unlucky one who gets that car they wheren't paying attention to detail. I work in the health field and you have no idea the things that get missed when people are overworked or tired. My wife had a KIA and from day one it had problems, the dealer couldn't even figure out what was wronge and eventually just bought the car back and refunded her money. But not everyone has problems with their KIA even though I'm not a fan.

Same principle applies to any car, make, or model. The 8 is no exception. I've had so many people ask me, "do you have these problems with your rx8?" because they heard from someone that rotaries are unreliable pieces of junk that only run good for 20k miles before the apex seals fail. If you don't know how to maintain your vehicle, or know how to be proactive with issues then your gonna have problems. Things fail and wear, sometimes more quickly then they are supposed to but you can't account for every type of situation a machine is going to be used and abused.

It will be great if Mazda gets the extended warrenty out there, they will probably be the only car company that admits to messing up that badly with some of the known issues.

Gotta rap this up, have blood I have to run some test on, car problems are frustrating, but don't assume that particular car is a piece of junk, I constantly supprise people how well my car has been trouble free and runs great.

Originally Posted by nycgps (Post 3743616)

you're wrong. Cuz BITOG ppl said so.



See? Its opposite. it doesn't matter if our engine is different. it doesn't matter most of our parts are the same as 25 something yrs ago except that the power output is significantly higher than 25 yrs ago. it doesn't matter if the older rotary engine use xxw40/50 oil and it works perfectly fine. it doesn't matter if people like Paul @ Mazmart who probably see Rotary Engine apart than 90% of us combine in our life time its better to use 10w40 or more. nothing matters. you get more damage for using xxw40/50 oil now. You just do. cuz BITOG :)

ok, Im done, go back to clutch pedal.

Originally Posted by pianoman-1 (Post 3745158)

And you really think it's ok or normal to have to repair all of these issues on a car that's just a few years old?

Originally Posted by pianoman-1 (Post 3745177)

I maintain my car just fine thanks. My friends call me obsessive about my car.
And if you look on this website on every issue I named (except the trunk latch which must be exclusively me) there are lots of people with all these issues. Maybe you don't have an '04. Maybe you'll somehow never have these issues. Or maybe a storm is about to hit. Believe me, I don't wish that on anyone. And in my list of problems, I didn't even mention the fact of Mazda selling the car with a battery and a starter that needs an upgrade. Even my mechanic at the dealership admits to this. I just have to keep saying, what was Mazda thinking?

Originally Posted by nycgps (Post 3742833)

the Rx8's engine didn't screw up. what Mazda failed was the ECU programming.


So if nothing is wrong with the engine design, and it's just the ECU programming, then why are people on their second or even third engine which have had the re-programming? Why are so many people saying you must premix or it will fail again?

Originally Posted by pianoman-1 (Post 3745157)

I have had my RX7 for 22 years. I know it very well. Never a major or unusual issue.

Originally Posted by pianoman-1 (Post 3745158)

And you really think it's ok or normal to have to repair all of these issues on a car that's just a few years old?

Originally Posted by pianoman-1 (Post 3745165)

So if nothing is wrong with the engine design, and it's just the ECU programming, then why are people on their second or even third engine which have had the re-programming? Why are so many people saying you must premix or it will fail again?

Originally Posted by pianoman-1 (Post 3745177)

I maintain my car just fine thanks. My friends call me obsessive about my car.
And if you look on this website on every issue I named (except the trunk latch which must be exclusively me) there are lots of people with all these issues. Maybe you don't have an '04. Maybe you'll somehow never have these issues. Or maybe a storm is about to hit. Believe me, I don't wish that on anyone. And in my list of problems, I didn't even mention the fact of Mazda selling the car with a battery and a starter that needs an upgrade. Even my mechanic at the dealership admits to this. I just have to keep saying, what was Mazda thinking?

Originally Posted by zoom44 (Post 3744306)

hey guys. I got in touch with Mazda about when to expect the clutch pedal program to start.

They will launch owner notifications by the middle to the end of next week – the first letters are scheduled to go in the mail by Wednesday the 20th. Owners should follow all instructions in the letter for inspection and repair or reimbursement for expenses incurred over repairs already performed.

Hope that helps calm some people's nerves

Originally Posted by Huey52 (Post 3748198)

I'll bet they don't reimburse proactive reinforcement bracket cost. Oh well, I've enjoyed the peace of mind.

Originally Posted by ASH8 (Post 3748215)

Na, I heard they were going to give owners a Brand New replacement RX-8 R3..;)

Originally Posted by nycgps (Post 3748280)

plus a 10,000 dollar coupon for any future purchase of any Mazda :bowdown: