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nycgps 10-15-2010 12:00 AM


Originally Posted by UrbanOcho (Post 3749559)
plus a blow job

From who ? Thats a BIG question.

Taylor Swift/Jessica Alba/Equal Quality = Yes :icon_tup:

Otherwise = HELL NO :sadwavey:

Chrishoky 10-20-2010 09:18 PM

So just a quick update for all those who are curious. I was having the squeeking clutch bracket problem as well as everyone else here. Dealership said have it replaced about 2 months ago but I didnt have the funds then.

Today on my drive home the clutch bracket snapped on me but it was still driveable. Called my dealership and drove her in. After arguing for about 5 mins the guy in charge of service checked his email and found the recall for the pedal. He said apparently he just received the email today, I say that is BS, but either way they are replacing it for free. He stated though that he did not have the new clutch assembly in stock and was unsure how many days it would take to get in. Ill keep everyone posted as to what comes from it but I would check with your local dealer to see if they have the new assembly in stock, but all dealerships should be replacing these faulty parts under warranty now!

DarkBrew 10-20-2010 09:31 PM


Originally Posted by Chrishoky (Post 3756336)
So just a quick update for all those who are curious. I was having the squeeking clutch bracket problem as well as everyone else here. Dealership said have it replaced about 2 months ago but I didnt have the funds then.

Today on my drive home the clutch bracket snapped on me but it was still driveable. Called my dealership and drove her in. After arguing for about 5 mins the guy in charge of service checked his email and found the recall for the pedal. He said apparently he just received the email today, I say that is BS, but either way they are replacing it for free. He stated though that he did not have the new clutch assembly in stock and was unsure how many days it would take to get in. Ill keep everyone posted as to what comes from it but I would check with your local dealer to see if they have the new assembly in stock, but all dealerships should be replacing these faulty parts under warranty now!

Maybe you're the first! Like a new year's baby
I'd still get the reinforcement from RR for the replacement bracket because it's the same weak design as the broken one!

Kudos to nycgps for making this happen, raising this issue to the highest levels and keeping Mazda honest

nycgps 10-21-2010 12:29 AM


Originally Posted by Chrishoky (Post 3756336)
So just a quick update for all those who are curious. I was having the squeeking clutch bracket problem as well as everyone else here. Dealership said have it replaced about 2 months ago but I didnt have the funds then.

Today on my drive home the clutch bracket snapped on me but it was still driveable. Called my dealership and drove her in. After arguing for about 5 mins the guy in charge of service checked his email and found the recall for the pedal. He said apparently he just received the email today, I say that is BS, but either way they are replacing it for free. He stated though that he did not have the new clutch assembly in stock and was unsure how many days it would take to get in. Ill keep everyone posted as to what comes from it but I would check with your local dealer to see if they have the new assembly in stock, but all dealerships should be replacing these faulty parts under warranty now!

honestly, I think Mazda should warranty this for life of the car.

but 100K is better than nothing I guess ?

You're probably the first one to get this under the new warranty extension. so let us know how it goes.


Originally Posted by DarkBrew (Post 3756363)
Maybe you're the first! Like a new year's baby
I'd still get the reinforcement from RR for the replacement bracket because it's the same weak design as the broken one!

Kudos to nycgps for making this happen, raising this issue to the highest levels and keeping Mazda honest

:P

Now Mazda hates me ... more than ever ...

Jedi54 10-21-2010 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by zoom44 (Post 3744306)
hey guys. I got in touch with Mazda about when to expect the clutch pedal program to start.

They will launch owner notifications by the middle to the end of next week – the first letters are scheduled to go in the mail by Wednesday the 20th. Owners should follow all instructions in the letter for inspection and repair or reimbursement for expenses incurred over repairs already performed.

Hope that helps calm some people's nerves

Great news Zoom!


Originally Posted by Huey52 (Post 3748198)
I'll bet they don't reimburse proactive reinforcement bracket cost. Oh well, I've enjoyed the peace of mind.

what are you talking about? You didn't proactively replace your clutch pedal, I'm pretty sure yours was broken. Remember? You member... remember?
;)

Brettus 10-21-2010 12:49 PM


Originally Posted by Jedi54 (Post 3756965)
Great news Zoom!


what are you talking about? You didn't proactively replace your clutch pedal, I'm pretty sure yours was broken. Remember? You member... remember?
;)

:nono:

Chrishoky 10-21-2010 06:24 PM

Another quick update for all those with the same problem. The service guy at North Penn Mazda called me today and told me he ordered the new "revised" clutch pedal assembly and will be replacing it for me tomorrow. I pick the car up tomorrow night, and if all goes as expected it should be completely covered under warranty. Ill post up tomorrow with how it all works out. But if your having problems give your local dealership a call, the recall is now active and the new "revised" assembly can be ordered by all dealerships. :evil_laug

DarkBrew 10-21-2010 07:33 PM

Revised? really?
Please get the part number

Mazurfer 10-21-2010 07:53 PM

Just picked this out of another thread today(10/21/10).


Called Mazda Customer Service today and discussed this with them. The Mazda rep told me that the dealerships had been informed of the warranty extension yesterday on the 20th and the owner mailings were headed out today and tomorrow.

Take it for what it's worth. Hopefully we will all see something in the coming days.

nycgps 10-21-2010 08:23 PM


Originally Posted by Chrishoky (Post 3757517)
Another quick update for all those with the same problem. The service guy at North Penn Mazda called me today and told me he ordered the new "revised" clutch pedal assembly and will be replacing it for me tomorrow. I pick the car up tomorrow night, and if all goes as expected it should be completely covered under warranty. Ill post up tomorrow with how it all works out. But if your having problems give your local dealership a call, the recall is now active and the new "revised" assembly can be ordered by all dealerships. :evil_laug

correction, its not a recall, its warranty extension.

the newest part is C revision. its been out for a while.

ASH8 10-21-2010 11:27 PM


Originally Posted by nycgps (Post 3757636)
correction, its not a recall, its warranty extension.

the newest part is C revision. its been out for a while.

Hey Jackson!..

Do you think the revised one is just a C, OR have Mazda Japan made up a "special" stronger unit for the US??, it could be and has happened before...

We need to get the actual Part Number once a few have been done..

Would be good to start a THREAD and tell guys here THIS is the Part Number that must be used..you can bet some Dealers will just order the "normal" one and not a Heavy Duty or Warranty Modified one...IF IT EXISTS??

ken-x8 10-21-2010 11:34 PM

Wasn't Mazda's tale, in the writeup at NHTSA, that brackets failed because they didn't follow the right installation sequence? In that case, the part itself wouldn't necssarily need an upate.

Ken

Huey52 10-22-2010 08:41 AM

LOL Nah, given the Race Roots bracket it shouldn't be an issue.


Originally Posted by Jedi54 (Post 3756965)
what are you talking about? You didn't proactively replace your clutch pedal, I'm pretty sure yours was broken. Remember? You member... remember?
;)


nycgps 10-22-2010 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by ASH8 (Post 3757784)
Hey Jackson!..

Do you think the revised one is just a C, OR have Mazda Japan made up a "special" stronger unit for the US??, it could be and has happened before...

We need to get the actual Part Number once a few have been done..

Would be good to start a THREAD and tell guys here THIS is the Part Number that must be used..you can bet some Dealers will just order the "normal" one and not a Heavy Duty or Warranty Modified one...IF IT EXISTS??

I doubt it.

but I could be wrong :) lets hope that they really update the part with something better than the PoS we got right now.


Originally Posted by ken-x8 (Post 3757790)
Wasn't Mazda's tale, in the writeup at NHTSA, that brackets failed because they didn't follow the right installation sequence? In that case, the part itself wouldn't necssarily need an upate.

Ken

lol, you still believe that? 2 nuts with 15 ft lbs each can cause this? come on now.

seriously if Im Mazda I will probably do the same thing --- instead of "yea we f-ed up cuz we're cheap", make something up and say "Our parts are durable/Ok, its just that the factory worker messed it up! Trust us!"

NHTSA don't cared what the "real" reasons are, they just need a reason that doesn't sound ridiculous. that's all. (I think this is ridiculous, however)

Unlike Toyota, no one has been "hurt/kill" from this issue. what do they care, right ?

bse50 10-22-2010 09:33 AM


Originally Posted by nycgps (Post 3758015)
Unlike Toyota, no one has been "hurt/kill" from this issue. what do they care, right ?

Does my wallet count? Replacing a tranny and a clutch after 12000 miles because of a PoS pedal sucks :)

Anyway the clutch pedal issue is just a bit more serious than the stupid accelerator pedal one imho. In that case it was not just toyota's fault... think about darwinism!
If the clutch pedal breaks at the wrong moment you might not have time to physicall react at all!

DarkBrew 10-22-2010 09:58 AM

If the replacement pedal is the same as the POS pedal then the only thing to do is reinforce it. Consider it insurance against a known safety issue.
Mazda needs to make this right but it's your choice whether to trust their solution.

nycgps 10-22-2010 11:05 AM


Originally Posted by bse50 (Post 3758027)
Does my wallet count? Replacing a tranny and a clutch after 12000 miles because of a PoS pedal sucks :)

umm ... no :naughty:


Anyway the clutch pedal issue is just a bit more serious than the stupid accelerator pedal one imho. In that case it was not just toyota's fault... think about darwinism!
If the clutch pedal breaks at the wrong moment you might not have time to physicall react at all!
the accelerator pedal thing is really stupid. the death could've been avoided. Just turn the f-ing engine off with ur foot on the BRAKE.

nothing fix stupid I guess.


Originally Posted by DarkBrew (Post 3758058)
If the replacement pedal is the same as the POS pedal then the only thing to do is reinforce it. Consider it insurance against a known safety issue.
Mazda needs to make this right but it's your choice whether to trust their solution.

this is their "solution"


On September 23, 2009, the Office of Defects Investigation (ODI) opened a Preliminary Evaluation to investigate allegations of the clutch pedal bracket failures in MY 2004 - 2006 Mazda RX8 vehicles. In response to an information request letter sent by ODI, Mazda stated that the failure mechanism may be related to an improper fastener attachment sequence to the body. The improper sequence may create a distortion of the pedal bracket and create a stress amplitude during pedal usage that may go beyond the wear out limit of the bracket. Mazda stated that the percentages of vehicles experiencing the defect is low at approximately 1% of the vehicle population projected to 10 years in service based on analysis of warranty claim data that best represented the alleged defect. In terms of risk to motor vehicle safety, Mazda stated that the failure is progressive with warning manifested in noise and difficulty in shifting gears prior to complete failure of the bracket. Mazda also stated that when a bracket fracture occurs the clutch pedal may lean towards the brake pedal however gear shifting becomes impossible prior to any contact of the clutch pedal to the brake pedal. ODI is not aware of any crashes associated with a clutch pedal bracket failure in the subject vehicles. ODI's analysis of warranty claim data provided by Mazda yielded failure rates of approximately 3% projected over 10 years in service. ODI's analysis of Vehicle Owner Questionnaire (VOQ) data complaint indicates that approximately 5% of the VOQ complainants allege they were unable to get out of the roadway as a result of a clutch pedal bracket failure. None of these incidents occurred on a highway. Approximately 7% of the complainants alleged a contact condition after a clutch pedal bracket failure of the clutch pedal to the brake pedal. None of these complaints noted difficulty in getting the vehicle stopped. Mazda has informed ODI that it will conducted an Owner Notification of an extended warranty coverage program increasing the clutch pedal assembly warranty to 8 years and limited at 100K miles for model years 2004 through 2009 RX8 vehicles. A safety-related defect trend has not been identified at this time and further use of agency resources does not appear to be warranted. Accordingly, this investigation is closed. The closing of this investigation does not constitute a finding by NHTSA that a safety-related defect does not exist. The agency will continue to monitor this issue and will take further action if warranted by the circumstances.
See the solution? holy crap

no new parts, Like Steve Jobs said, You're doing it wrong !

ken-x8 10-22-2010 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by nycgps (Post 3758015)
...lol, you still believe that? 2 nuts with 15 ft lbs each can cause this? come on now...

I was just quoting the official position.

I do, however, think it's possible to screw up something that just has two nuts at 15 ft lbs each. Tighten (or overtighten) one all the way first, without paying attention to whether it's aligned, then tighten the other.

And I have seen people do exactly that. A couple of weeks ago, at Advance Auto Parts, I wound up seizing the wrenches and finishing a battery install myself when the installer was on that path.

Ken

LifeAfterRx8 10-22-2010 01:23 PM

I think my pedal is about to break.
It squeaks like crazy and feels like it's about to snap off. I have 71,800 miles so..
I called my dealership to see if they would replace it but they said they've never heard of Mazda extended a warranty to the 8y/100k mile on the clutch pedal bracket.

Is there documented proof I can show them that they have to replace it?

DarkBrew 10-22-2010 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by LifeAfterRx8 (Post 3758343)
I think my pedal is about to break.
It squeaks like crazy and feels like it's about to snap off. I have 71,800 miles so..
I called my dealership to see if they would replace it but they said they've never heard of Mazda extended a warranty to the 8y/100k mile on the clutch pedal bracket.

Is there documented proof I can show them that they have to replace it?

Check the bracket looking carefully for cracks or broken spot welds as these are indications of imminent failure. If you determine that breakage is likely then go buy a pedal if you have to for now and keep the receipt. Do not wait for it to strand you or cause an accident.
If they are not changing the design then get your replacement pedal reinforced.

Chrishoky 10-22-2010 06:52 PM

OK Guys, official update so listen up! Seems I'm the first to at least post this up officially under the new warranty terms. North Penn Mazda in Colmar Pa was the dealer that replaced my clutch bracket free of charge with absolutely no problems whatsoever. The service guy told me that Mazda made a revision to the clutch bracket, the official part number is FEY5-41-30X. I have no clue what the old part number was but I'm sure someone on here will know if its new or not. Either way they are now able to order the new clutch pedal kit and are replacing now under the new warranty terms. So if your having problems give your dealer a call and have your broken clutch bracket replaced!

DarkBrew 10-22-2010 07:19 PM

Congrats. Good news
Can you snap a clear picture of the new bracket?

ASH8 10-22-2010 07:31 PM

Interesting...

I can't find info on the Part Number you posted, are you sure it is correct?? ;)

Original Left Hand Drive..latest PN
FE05-41-300C Pedal Clutch Aluminium
FE15-41-300C Pedal Clutch Standard

FEY5-41-30X ?? New Modded Clutch Bracket?? comes up Part Number does not exits, do you have all the number correct??..There is a possibilty NMAO Parts has not loaded in New Part yet??

Chrishoky 10-23-2010 01:22 AM

I will post pics of the new bracket sometime this weekend and also include the invoice I was given with the new part number

RedFC3S86 10-23-2010 06:46 AM

pedal to be covered under warranty finally!!!!
 
A good friend of mine is a tech at a local madza dealership. He told me mazda sent him an email saying they plan to cover the clutch pedal under the extended warranty! Dig up those service receipts ppl! Its time to get paid.


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