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Old Sep 9, 2010 | 04:17 PM
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An extended warranty on the bracket is of little comfort if the clutch pedal snaps while driving in traffic. It'll also not be of much help for the person whose clutc/tranny gets hosed because of the bracket slowly going out of compliance but gets accused by Mazda of "abuse".
Agreed!
Be proactive and get the reinforcement. Mazda won't pay for it but @ $135 it's good insurance, can be done with average tools and dramatically improves the feel of the clutch pedal.
http://raceroots.com/index.php/produ...t-bracket.html

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Old Sep 9, 2010 | 10:32 PM
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You guys are making me wonder

When my pedal snapped and I took it in, they said I also needed a clutch master cylinder because it had a small leak. Could that have been a result of the snap?
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Old Sep 9, 2010 | 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by pianoman-1
When my pedal snapped and I took it in, they said I also needed a clutch master cylinder because it had a small leak. Could that have been a result of the snap?
yes.

Cuz when the thing breaks, it breaks at an angle and the rod will mess the Clutch Master's internal (the pistons and seals)
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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 06:13 PM
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And my petal has started to squeak...

Just started today. =/ I have a long list of things to replace, im not happy! Anyone besides raceroots selling the petal / re-enforcement ?
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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by RX8Lovah
And my petal has started to squeak...

Just started today. =/ I have a long list of things to replace, im not happy! Anyone besides raceroots selling the petal / re-enforcement ?
You can check the for-sale section
No other vendors
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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by nycgps

UPDATE :

FOR THOSE WHO GOT A BROKEN CLUTCH PEDAL !


Update, August 31th, 2010. NHTSA has closed the case, and Mazda will provide 8 years/100K warranty on the said Clutch bracket part. As of this writing, it seems that 99.99% of the Mazda employees are still unaware of this and might bs you about "no its not covered, what are you talking about."
If you're reading this, give MNAO a call, send them the government's link about ths issue, which could be found HERE it covers every single Manual Transmission equipped Rx-8 from 2004-2009 (where is 2010?).
It seems that I'm the latest victim to this clutch pedal madness. Is there anyway that I can get my money reimbursed? I was charged $465 by the damn dealer for parts and labor. If I can get that back it would be sweet. I have posted some pics here. Check them out"

https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-trouble-shooting-95/bad-clutch-transmission-205012/
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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Aceninja
It seems that I'm the latest victim to this clutch pedal madness. Is there anyway that I can get my money reimbursed? I was charged $465 by the damn dealer for parts and labor. If I can get that back it would be sweet. [/url]
Very likely. When Mazda sends out the notice of extended warranty, they should include provisions to apply for reibursement. That's how it usually works. So make sure you hang onto your receipt til that comes out. Keep looking in here, because this is the first place that you'll learn when the notices start getting mailed.

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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 05:56 PM
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I can't remember whether I said this before (senior moment!)....

How many of you guys now have had clutch brackets crack/break have also replace or renewed or "upgraded" ANY part of your Clutch Assembly...that being Pressure Plate/Clutch plate prior to the break.?

A "Heavier Duty" clutch, particular Pressure Plate will push back any extra human leg force back through to the clutch bracket.

Or Similarly a worn OEM Clutch Plate/P-Plate could be creating the same issue.

In other words the OEM Clutch bracket is not designed to take any more strain through the clutch system others than a properly functioning OEM Clutch Plate/Pressure Plate.??

I know many of my US cousins Love to Change out parts (waste your money, sorry) to "better" non Original....and sometimes, just sometimes this can be a reason, 'a'.

Right Hand drive markets (Japan, UK, Australia, New Zealand (Brettus excluded), Hong Kong) are not seeing this issue AT ALL...and Yes the bracket is different part number for RHD, but the principals are identical.
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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ASH8
Right Hand drive markets (Japan, UK, Australia, New Zealand (Brettus excluded), Hong Kong) are not seeing this issue AT ALL...and Yes the bracket is different part number for RHD, but the principals are identical.
yes - I had a very stiff clutch which would definately have been a factor in my case .
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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 06:37 PM
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Yes, I recall (I think it was Jackson) who bleed his Clutch Slave Cylinder ( a few years back) and all this "Silver" muck came out in the fluid...I recall he was scratching his head, Obviously now we see his Clutch Mastercylinder alloy piston-seal was out of alignment and being damaged because of an mis-aligned Clutch Bracket Push-Rod.

IMO it is another "go to the Source first case and work backwards" which can be applied in so many areas...is the broken bracket telling you something about your clutch?
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Old Sep 25, 2010 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Aceninja
It seems that I'm the latest victim to this clutch pedal madness. Is there anyway that I can get my money reimbursed? I was charged $465 by the damn dealer for parts and labor. If I can get that back it would be sweet. I have posted some pics here. Check them out"

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=205012
I paid $330 for the repair @ my Mazda Dealer and i had them overnight the pedal assembly. Did they fix other parts for you besides the pedal assembly?
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Old Sep 25, 2010 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by ASH8
Yes, I recall (I think it was Jackson) who bleed his Clutch Slave Cylinder ( a few years back) and all this "Silver" muck came out in the fluid...I recall he was scratching his head, Obviously now we see his Clutch Mastercylinder alloy piston-seal was out of alignment and being damaged because of an mis-aligned Clutch Bracket Push-Rod.

IMO it is another "go to the Source first case and work backwards" which can be applied in so many areas...is the broken bracket telling you something about your clutch?
Yep, I was the unlucky first

the clutch master failed at a later point, but when they replace my engine they noticed the sliver/gray fluid already, Even Kevin @ Wayne Mazda never seen anything like that before so he has no idea where it was coming from.

then shortly after ...

someday, I sit in, press the clutch in, it didn't "bounce" back up. I was like WTF NOT AGAIN? lift it up by hand, it works again, but it was getting worst so I parked it back home.

after a long *** diagnostic -------- took the clutch slave out, replaced it with the original one, Bleed the system ... it is a royal PITA for some big dude like me to bleed the Clutch Slave ...


check, still getting Sliver/gray fluid, Looked at the Brake Fluid reservoir its still clear, scratching my head cuz its full of "WTF" inside it. then I was like hmm, could it be Clutch Master? take it out, its already dripping those "crap". Replaced. Bleed again, everything back to normal.


Originally Posted by RedFC3S86
I paid $330 for the repair @ my Mazda Dealer and i had them overnight the pedal assembly. Did they fix other parts for you besides the pedal assembly?
you don't need to pay to "overnight" the parts, dealership get their parts with "OVERNIGHT" shipping anyway.

and No, only the clutch pedal was covered.
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Old Sep 25, 2010 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by RedFC3S86
I paid $330 for the repair @ my Mazda Dealer and i had them overnight the pedal assembly. Did they fix other parts for you besides the pedal assembly?
Nope. They charged me $255 for the part, $ 125 for the labor and $55 for the diagnostic. Plus tax it came to around $465. Maybe I got ripped off, then again I am in Puerto Rico. The RX8 is my daily driver, and I was a bit short on time otherwise I would have dug around for a cheaper part/install. Just hoping I get my money back from Mazda before Christmas
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Old Sep 25, 2010 | 06:46 PM
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Mazdaspeed 6 ..CLUTCH PEDAL IS DIFFICULT TO OPERATE

Just for interest sake, there is/was an issue with 2007 MS6 Clutch Pedal being "difficult to operate"..

It appears there was a fix of a modified clutch pedal bracket, plus also the replacement of Clutch Plate and Pressure Plate.

I know the MS6 Engine is FWD., with RWD or AWD.

Just for your interest..SEE TSB...


https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1285458325
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Old Sep 26, 2010 | 12:26 PM
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What's the lowest mileage failure?
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Old Sep 26, 2010 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ASH8
Just for interest sake, there is/was an issue with 2007 MS6 Clutch Pedal being "difficult to operate"..

It appears there was a fix of a modified clutch pedal bracket, plus also the replacement of Clutch Plate and Pressure Plate.

I know the MS6 Engine is FWD., with RWD or AWD.

Just for your interest..SEE TSB...


https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1285458325

Mazda updated the clutch slave once. thats aboout it
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Old Sep 26, 2010 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by BReal-10EC
What's the lowest mileage failure?
43,000. (2004 RX8, Stock Clutch, no mods).
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Old Sep 26, 2010 | 03:20 PM
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Just purchased my reenforcement bracket from RaceRoots today, going to put it on as soon as I get home.
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Old Sep 26, 2010 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Aceninja
43,000. (2004 RX8, Stock Clutch, no mods).
35,000 miles on mine when it failed. '04 model. Thing barely gets driven and the pedal breaks. lol
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Old Sep 30, 2010 | 07:32 PM
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Mine had about 39k when it failed.....
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Old Oct 2, 2010 | 03:46 PM
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49k and failed did you guys get a free replacement?
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Old Oct 3, 2010 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by spense8
49k and failed did you guys get a free replacement?
I didn't. I think a few ppl that had this problem had cool dealers that took care of the repairs, but Mazda isn't covering this under warranty YET. Save your receipt so when Mazda adds it to the extended warranty, yo can get your $$$ back. I also had my dealer give me the original pedal assembly (just in case i need to take pics of it or anything)
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Old Oct 3, 2010 | 12:14 PM
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49k and failed did you guys get a free replacement?
Nope. I bought the reinforced unit from Race Roots. I don't expect to get my money back going this route, I just wanted something that wouldn't fail again down the road.
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by nycgps
Why dont you change it then ? dont wait man, I cant even move it into damn gears. imagine if that happens on a highway ...




Hmm, I thinking, can I consider this as a safety issue? I mean Im lucky the thing broke when Im not even driving(park!)

but what if it snap off when Im doing highway 55 mph ? its not going to be funny.
wow, you are lucky man, mine broke on the highway and i was half an hour away from home, so i had to force myself through the gears and get back home.
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by RWatters
Nope. I bought the reinforced unit from Race Roots. I don't expect to get my money back going this route, I just wanted something that wouldn't fail again down the road.
haha ! Mazda is really funny and they blame it on "wrong assembly" @ the factory ... oh oops I mean err they torque that 2 f-ing bolt with like 17 lbs each to the firewall "WRONG" and it causes this ... sureeeeeee

its a cheaply made bracket, enough said.

with the warranty you are getting the same Bracket. so expect it to break again @ whatever your existing one is around the same miles.
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