Originally Posted by RWatters

They've reported on it before, but now it's more or less a recall according to the NHTSA. Big difference. I say more or less because they're just extending the warranty on it so it's not a true recall...

Originally Posted by RWatters

The shop I have my RX-8 worked on at actually commented on how he's replaced two broken clutch pedals on RX-8's before mine. He NEVER works on RX-8's. lol

Originally Posted by nycgps

this is why I called Mazda's "1-3%" nothing but BS.

I really wanna know what kind of Torque sequence this thing has, **** I mean its like 15 or 20 lbs ft lbs of tq on 2 of the bolts. OMG its effecting SO DAMN MUCH.

Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill

And almost every one of their TSB's is a half-*** Band-Aid solution to a larger looming problem.

Originally Posted by jamiann31

i had this happen to my 8 about a less than a year ago and had it fixed at the dealership. Can i get a refund back since magically its covered now by the warranty?

Originally Posted by nycgps

For a while I thought my pedal already *broke* ...

but tonight, yes I finally know how does it feel, I stop, park, try to put it into 1st so I can lock the car, step on the pedal and *snap*, it broke. lol

So yes, it broke in the *right* time. (when im not driving it)

I just made an appointment tomorrow morning thru dealership's online system.

should I drive the car back to home first cuz im not home(at GF's house now)

hmm should I call Mazda now and tow it to the dealership ?



UPDATE :

FOR THOSE WHO GOT A BROKEN CLUTCH PEDAL !

Please report your case to NHTSA at

http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/index.cfm

Because under normal driving condition, a clutch bracket should NOT break. and imagine if you're in the middle of highway speed, the bracket gave up and locked you in gear and you need to brake fast ...

Also, if you're involve in an accident because of this bracket issue. please give NHTSA a call and tell them the whole story.

Thanks


ATTENTION : Today, 5/10/2009(yeah, its a sunday, and Mother's day too) The Department of Transportation from the government has contacted me about Pictures of the broken bracket. Im trying to find it and send it him. So I suggest whoever have a picture of the broken bracket should contact me first via pm

Update: Oct 06, 2009 NHTSA has "officially" opened the case with the Clutch Bracket issue for all 40,000 RX-8 (thats all MT we got in the state? ) We need more reports to make Mazda fix this unacceptable issue ! So please if you had/having this issue. Take a picture of your bracket and keep it in a safe place, if your bracket broke and it was replaced under Bumper to Bumper Warranty. Keep a copy of the invoice, scan it into your computer. I can forward your issue to the government agent who is handling this case. Oh yes, file a formal complain at the web site above !!!!!!!!!! Thanks !

Update, August 31th, 2010. NHTSA has closed the case, and Mazda will provide 8 years/100K warranty on the said Clutch bracket part. As of this writing, it seems that 99.99% of the Mazda employees are still unaware of this and might bs you about "no its not covered, what are you talking about."
If you're reading this, give MNAO a call, send them the government's link about ths issue, which could be found HERE it covers every single Manual Transmission equipped Rx-8 from 2004-2009 (where is 2010?).

Originally Posted by ken-x8

Yes. They'll use the same part, but this time make sure that the tightening sequence is correct.

Once the TSB comes out I plan on loosening the bolts on mine, then re-tightening according to the procedure. That will avoid any problems.

Ken

Originally Posted by RedFC3S86

I had this happen to me a few days ago...I printed the ODI documents and presented it to the dealership. They still won't cover it....They supposedly called Mazda and they're playing dumb and refusing to cover the repairs under warranty. I'm not giving up on this though.....I'll get ahold of MNAO to go further up the food chain.

Originally Posted by nycgps

Only you would believe that tightening sequence bs on a part that has only 2 bolts with what 15-20 lbs of and its not even directly across from each other.

Not to mention, the firewall is so thin that you can move it by hand, so what kind of tightening sequence will help ?

Auto company (not just Mazda) will spill as much BS as possible just to cover their *** (lower their manufacturing cost)

Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill

Mazda probably figures the job operator is torquing the nut on the dashboard before torquing the two nuts on the firewall. In any event they have a way of KNOWING, not merely guessing, the sequence and level of torque for every single clutch pedal ever installed as all that info is kept electronically. The job operators use what we call "D.C. nutrunner" torque guns which are electric and provide this information to the mainframe computers in the manufacturing facility. Thus, every torqued piece of hardware is recorded and stored for situations like this and matters of liability, should that info ever be needed. This info is stored for EVERY car manufactured.

Originally Posted by nycgps

There are way too many idiots working for MNAO

Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill

The problem with expecting changes/improvements in any given part stems from the processes inherent in the manufacturing and assembly industries and the contractual obligations companies must assume in order to get things done with any level of efficacy.

This essentially means that Mazda had to commit to volumes of parts such as clutch pedal assemblies, ignition coils, fuel pumps, etc., that make it nearly impossible to upgrade, improve, or replace said parts with superior parts.

BHR is but a mere spec in the cosmos of the aftermarket industry and we are limited by this exact same concept.

Originally Posted by nycgps

Only Ken would believe that tightening sequence bs on a part that has only 2 bolts(and a PLASTIC HOLDER on top) with what 15-20 lbs of and its not even directly across from each other...

Originally Posted by pianoman-1

Last week I sent an email to Mazda asking about the extended clutch warranty. I also included a link where it was mentioned on the NHTSA site. I just received an email response from them. Here it is;

RE: Warranty [INTR:414592]

Wednesday, September 8, 2010 3:49 PM


From:
"MazdaCustomerAssistance@mazdausa.com" MazdaCustomerAssistance@mazdausa.com




To:
davidgeorgepiano@yahoo.com




Hello David,
Thank you for contacting Mazda.

At this time there is not a Special Service Program that extends the warranty on the clutch pedal. If there becomes one you will be notified by mail and at that time you can fill out the appropiate reimbursement form and send it in for reimbursement as instructed.

Sincerely,
Miriam Stevens
Representative, Customer Assistance

Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill

The problem with expecting changes/improvements in any given part stems from the processes inherent in the manufacturing and assembly industries and the contractual obligations companies must assume in order to get things done with any level of efficacy.

This essentially means that Mazda had to commit to volumes of parts such as clutch pedal assemblies, ignition coils, fuel pumps, etc., that make it nearly impossible to upgrade, improve, or replace said parts with superior parts.

BHR is but a mere spec in the cosmos of the aftermarket industry and we are limited by this exact same concept.

Originally Posted by ASH8

Geez, ain't that the truth..that place needs a Thing that starts with B and ends with B up under it, GET RID OF THE 'FORD' CEO...HE is ******* USELESS...

MNAO Needs someone with an Industry Success track record, not this has been that never was.
He might be a "nice guy" but NICE GUYS don't get things done...they are YES MEN!

Originally Posted by ken-x8

Gasp! You don't believe a statement by Mazda (Mazda itself, not just a spokesperson) communicated in an official US Government document?

I am shocked!!

Ken

Originally Posted by Smileynh

So I had this issue. It also bent the rod leading into the master cylinder requiring it's replacement. Mazda is not paying, 60k miles. Same BS recall worthy item that happened on my wifes truck. YOU PRODUCED it flawed. PAY UP!

Originally Posted by RedFC3S86

What is it going to take for Mazda to work this into the extended warranty with the drivetrain? Or a fatal accident/serious injury to a driver. passenger or pedestrian??? At this rate, Mazda will become the new Toyota.....They need to be proactive with this before this faulty pedal gets them negative press in the national news. How many people does it take to file a class action lawsuit (if it comes down to that)????