so prior to buying my 8 which now has 102k Mazda told the origanal owner his clutch pedal was fine but his clutch would need to be replaced.

so I bought the car and set up getting a clutch installed.
Tonight the pedal broke.
so my question is. will they still cover the pedal and,seeing as the pedal is/was bad is there anyway that could have ruined the clutch to begin with?

I'm feeling it's likely the'll do nothing seeing as I'm 2k over the warranty,just feel like it was in their shop prior to me buying it and they serviced the vehicle,changing the shudder valve,plugs wires and upgrading the coils,but then said the pedal was fine and the clutch was the problem.(since I bought the car knowing about the clutch,I thought the squeak and stiffness of the pedal was the clutch) they also had replaced the pedal once before at 47k when they replaced the engine.

well wish me luck,I'm calling service first then going to talk to the local dealership.

Ugh, Caudrillas, I was in the same boat as you. Went in for service, and they blamed the 'hydraulics' and not the clearly broken bracket. I didn't realise it was broken until I looked at the bracket AFTER getting the car back. Seriously pissed.

Question for you all:

Is the bracket the only thing they replace? I remember a thread about someone getting the master cylinder replaced as well. Does this make sense? Is this reasonable?

The last thing I need is only the bracket being replaced, and then the master cylinder being broken and causing more problems from Mazda's mistake.

Get the clutch pedal bracket replaced first, then assess if there is something wrong with the master cylinder afterward.

Anyone find out if they got any money back for the brackets they have already purchased?

This must have already been addressed but its a long thread!

So I found out the reason Mazda didnt replace my pedal was it was already replaced. So I called Mazda(not the dealer) and they cant or wont do anything but at lest they where gentile with me. :D

iirc they didnt improve the design so your new one will probably break too. idk why people spend money on a bracket just take the pedal out and weld it. about a week after mine broke and i welded it i got the letter from mazda about the bracket problem. they said they would reimburse people if they paid for a repair/replacement but i didnt bill myself. pedal still feels great and i know its strong. just weld it up

Thats what I ended up doing. Its ugly and the spray paint dose little to hide that,its heavy but its strait and solid. Feels better than it did and, yeah I wasnt gonna give Mazda 130 or ? For a new one just to break it. Weld it!

well than practice welding. you cant see it anyway

Mine broke today! ! !

Got a replaced assembly $75 and feels like new again!

Don't lolly-gag too long, send your bill with the letter to MNAO and get your reimbursement.

For the labor and the part?

Can someone please explain or give me a idea of how i am supposed to UNBOLT The master clutch cylinder as the screws are behind the wall? i cant seem to figure it out... i am trying to rebuild my master clutch cylinder, as it has failed. WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED, THANK YOU!!! :)

Remove bracket on inside and then remove MC in engine compartment :)

Clutch pedal snapped on me last night at dealership now going its replaced under warranty. Brought it in 3 months ago because it was squeaking but I was told since it didn't break they couldn't fix it but they greased it up so the noise goes away. Crossing my fingers now

greasing it will not fix hardware problem, shit is already breaking apart that's why it's making contact + making noises.

techs ... pathetic.

Well Mazda replaced it no questions asked so I'm good now.

I have a 2004 RX-8 that snapped a clutch pedal assembly this morning...or so I believe from the way it now feel. My car is definitely beyond the 8 year warranty, but not yet at 100k miles. Should I be covered by Mazda for this service of getting a new clutch pedal assembly?

Doesn't look that way, unfortunately. There's a company that does a brace that strengthens the pedal, but I don't know if it's for broken or unbroken clutch assemblies.

You could always go and call mazda USA/Canada and see what they say.

Take it to your dealership.

Where might I find this bracket lol ^-^

Get the clutch bracket from a dealer or one of the on-line parts suppliers. I have a strong feeling that the part number is somewhere in this thread. If you mean the reinforcing kit, that comes from Race Roots. They may be a forum vendor. Look them up in the Good Guys / Bad Guys forum for an interesting read.

Question. Has anyone had a noisy clutch pedal that was not related to it breaking? Lately mine makes noise intermittently. Sometimes no noise, sometimes it creaks like an old screen door with a rusty spring. I guess it's time to crawl under with a light and take a look.

Ken

Creaking usually means that it is on its way out, at least from what I have read and interpreted. Time for a re-enforcement bracket!
Thank you, I was looking to the re-enforcement bracket. :beer05:

Review this pix. This is where mine "tore" and was wobbly at this point so I could get to dealer under it's own power. This is after a snap noise when I started it one morning. Get free one installed at dealer. Call first to see if they have one in stock!! Very expensive assy.

If you don't want to pay $160.00 for the OEM clutch pedal bracket(part number: FE05-41-300C, you could purchase one of these.
RaceRoots Clutch Pedal Reinforcement Bracket
RotaryFX Clutch Reinforcement Bracket Kit

I have the raceroots bracket for sale in the parts section https://www.rx8club.com/rx-8-parts-s...8/

A few posts back I said

I didn't spot anything, but I'm not as limber as I used to be. Had the dealer take a look today. Add another bracket to the casualty list. My service advisor described it as a bad bolt. He's ordered a new bracket (part number FEY5-41-30XB on the writeup). He said it would take a week or so to get, and covered by the warranty.

When they replace it I'll see if I can get some snapshots of the old one.

Ken

The break usually occurs on the upper left part of the plate.
http://silvereightstudio.com/misc/Br...t/DSC_1862.JPG

I'm pretty sure that looked intact when I crawled under. Of course, it may not have progressed far enough to be visible with the nut still in place. And I'm a bit too overweight and undercondition to have really gotten in there. I'll get a better look in a week or two when they get it out.

Any idea what that piece is for in the middle? The odd bent shape under the actuating rod?

Ken

It's the guide for that rod.

Thanks!

Being a bit O-C, I googled the part number, partly because of "B" in the part number and earlier discussion in this thread about the new part being the same as the old. I found the following linked from mazdaparts.org listing of the non-B version:

http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/yhst-...lutchpedal.pdf

(I did search this site before posting this link. Found SSP82 itself, but not this attachment.) There are a few interesting things. One is that it shows the damage area exactly where it is in your photo - of course. The other is that it shows a torque spec and tightening order for the three nuts. Earlier in this thread I got into a discussion with a member (who I won't name) who dismissed the idea that tightening order matters. Given where the damage occurs, the tightening order makes complete sense. That supports Mazda's assertion blaming this on the assembly line workers. (Still Mazda's fault for inadequate training.) It's also interesting that they say that if no crack is found the three nuts should be loosened and retightened in the right order.

Hopefully this document isn't a repost, but either way it should be useful to anyone replacing the bracket themselves, or installing the reinforcement kit. Or anyone who might want to forestall trouble by retorquing properly.

Ken

Not broken!! Instead of there being a crack near nut "A" (see image) a teflon (white plastic, anyway) bushing where the spring pivots in the frame had failed. See the red circle. That was the source of the noise, and explains why at times it sounded so much like a screen door with a rusty spring.

So the answer to my question back in post #1335 is "Now somebody has." :)

Thanks to Rob and his team at Rosenthal Tyson's Mazda for diagnosing the problem and taking care of it with their customary efficiency.

Ken

You wouldn't be the first with that problem I have seen a few break and separate through the bushing. I would say 1 in 100 pedals has/had the issue.

Yikes! That sounds really common. Funny that with over 90,000 members here and me spending more time here than I should, I don't remember ever seeing a post on it. Lots on the cracked bracket, and a fair number on the cut switch, but not on this.

Good thing I missed whatever posts there were on the bushing. Had I know it could happen, I might have looked for it, assumed it was not covered on the bracket warranty, and screwed with it myself.

Does your reinforcement kit come with improved bushings? I'm not in the market for one, since I've now got the "B" model bracket and it was installed by a dealer mechanic, but just wondering.

Ken

it would be interesting to know how many had stiffer aftermarket clutches installed ...

:lol: i have stock clutch i swear!

exedy oe is same as stock?...

Not everyone is as active on the forums as you might think, I believe most just read. But I have seen quite a few in my emails with questions and so forth.

Our kit does not come with improved bushings not sure that would fix the problem compared to the size of the bushing needed and space allowed within that tiny hole where the spring slides into.

did your clutch squeek before the break?

Apparently, you haven't read enough...

no, theres 55 pages.... im lazy

Dumb questions belong in the Dumb Question Thread.

But ya gatta be smart enough to find that thread... :mdrmed:

Ken

I can't even remember my own birthday, but I do remember you posting that you had 10000 miles or so on a stiffer aftermarket clutch when yours broke.


Bet you forgot to include that in your complaint to the NHTSA too ...

Genuine Mazda RX-8 Clutch Pedal Assembly
My clutch pedal is showing signs of breaking and I was wondering if anyone had ordered there's from this site? (Mine's an 04 and is out of warranty).

Boy oh boy i wish the PO did this before I bought my car....

my clutch started squeeking today but its not squeeking at the clutch assembly its squeeking inside the transmision when i depress. the pedal also feels weird like a vibration when you depress even if the car is shut off.
also it goes away when the car cools and comes back when its warmed up
cars at 68k 6spd m/t never had any trans fluid replaced or diff fluid. pedal assembly has no play whatsoever. anybody have any experience with this

im thinking clutch line
the clutch itself or fluid maybe?
idk

input?

just read this.

it was less than 10K, maybe around 5-6 K, then I swap it back out for Exedy.

it doesn't matter really, a lot of people's bracket broke. it's a suck ass design and we all know it.

Mazda said it's design life is 100K miles. Do you seriously think what they said was true ?

It was a flimsy design, surprisingly, mine lasted 140,000 miles.

ok I have a heavy foot, I admit :)

BHR's reinforced pedal is so beast. Welds all over the place. I've had mine for about 10k so far and I'm pretty sure it will last the life of my car. My original pedal lasted only to 75k. It snapped while I was two hours away from home. Had to press and lift the pedal all the way home.

^^^ +1000
I have one of the first BHR reinforced pedals (Ray installed it himself) and I have ZERO doubt that clutch pedal will out live me and my car.


I was also able to submit a repair reimbursement to Mazda for the cost of the pedal and labor. :cool: