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ken-x8 07-10-2011 08:12 AM

I think they'll replace it only if it's starting to crack. It can squeal for two other reasons: the cut switch or something in the linkage needing to be lubed. My pedal's been squeaking intermittently for the past couple of years, with no change in feel or any problems yet. Had the dealer look at it, but it wasn't squeaking that day and they saw nothing.

Ken

firebirdude 07-10-2011 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by ken-x8 (Post 4026918)
I think they'll replace it only if it's starting to crack. It can squeal for two other reasons: the cut switch or something in the linkage needing to be lubed. My pedal's been squeaking intermittently for the past couple of years, with no change in feel or any problems yet. Had the dealer look at it, but it wasn't squeaking that day and they saw nothing.

Ken

Same here.

Same name too.

-Ken

lateralus 07-10-2011 04:47 PM

As far as I can tell it looks pretty solid. No bending or discoloration in the area that breaks off... I'll probably get one of those reinforcement brackets to stay on the safe side... I took a pic of it, am I missing something that looks like a problem or does it look fine?


https://img828.imageshack.us/img828/...10710at441.png

Grace_Excel 07-10-2011 05:24 PM

NO, you're good to go man... I don't know if the dealer will charge you for them to inspect the bracket, but look into the Race Roots bracket for reinforcement.

alz0rz 07-10-2011 10:24 PM

i'd get the bracket anyway. recently I helped someone install a clutch pedal bracket even though they weren't having squeaking or play in the pedal but when we got the pedal off we clearly saw the metal separated in such a way that you would never have been able to see with it still bolted to the car.

i'm not going to endorse anyone but you can either buy a bracket or get it reinforced via welding.

Grace_Excel 07-11-2011 07:07 PM

Welding it will work too if you could find someone who's very good and would do it for a good price.

LanceTaylor 07-11-2011 07:15 PM

look on ebay, my clutch pedal assembly broke on mine.... I found a good one on ebay. However I also done some reinforced welding on mine to make mine stronger. This kit works very well. And mazda knew about this problem when i called them... Their stock assembly is very poorly designed

Race Roots 07-12-2011 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by LanceTaylor (Post 4028203)
look on ebay, my clutch pedal assembly broke on mine.... I found a good one on ebay. However I also done some reinforced welding on mine to make mine stronger. This kit works very well. And mazda knew about this problem when i called them... Their stock assembly is very poorly designed

We sell it for less on our website than we do on ebay. :)

LanceTaylor 07-13-2011 01:20 AM

Mazda was going to charge me $250.00 to replace mine so I bought that kit and done my own welding.

ASH8 07-13-2011 01:34 AM

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You know there is an 8 year or 100,000 Mile Warranty (NA Only) on these Clutch Pedals?

pianoman-1 11-16-2011 12:57 PM

Amazing
 
So it was about 14 months (August 2010) and 18,000 miles ago that my clutch bracket snapped, and I already have another breakage. Metal ripped, rivet pulled out. Dealer claimed to have never heard of that happening. Funny that the had the part in stock...
Anyone else had one go that quick?
btw; What a piece of $hit that part really is.

ZoomZoomBoy 11-16-2011 01:49 PM

Quick question, my clutch pedal broke last month and Mazda replaced it free of charge. I wanted to know if the newer one is also prone to breaking, is it the same one or is it an improved one?

Reason why I ask is because I want to know if I should still get the reinforcement kit AFTER Mazda has already replaced the broken bracket.

RIWWP 11-16-2011 01:53 PM

It's basically the same one, and will eventually break. They supposedly updated it, but the update hasn't proven to be any better.

If you want a solid pedal, either the bracket from RR or the BHR assembly are the best bets. The bracket from RR requires drilling and will void the warranty on the pedal. The BHR assembly is an entirely new assembly/pedal, but won't break. Your call on which you go with.

ASH8 11-16-2011 04:16 PM

Just interested to know what is your Clutch like?....have you ever changed it and or flywheel?

Strange how some get 160K out of them..

New Yorker 11-16-2011 04:20 PM

I suspect some of us are simply more gentle with things. I still have my original sun visors after 5 1/2 years. No problems.

Kamui157 12-28-2011 10:03 AM

Clutch pedal just broke this morning on way to work. Can barely get trans into gear as the pedal still BARELY works.

Ordered a raceroots bracket but should I try to get mazda to replace the unit first? but don't want to bring the car in with turbo and void warranties.

Does bringing them the broken clutch assembly to replace work?

ken-x8 12-28-2011 01:00 PM


Does bringing them the broken clutch assembly to replace work?
That would depend on the dealer. If you bought a replacement yourself and/or paid someone to replace it, Mazda would reimburse you. That's described in the bracket extended warranty. So there should be a mechanism for the dealer to just swap a new one for the old.

I did that once with a fan belt that failed on a car under warranty. No idea, though, if the dealer actually handled it as a warranty claim, or just gave me the new one to get rid of me. ;)

Ken

nycgps 12-28-2011 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by ZoomZoomBoy (Post 4126523)
Quick question, my clutch pedal broke last month and Mazda replaced it free of charge. I wanted to know if the newer one is also prone to breaking, is it the same one or is it an improved one?

Reason why I ask is because I want to know if I should still get the reinforcement kit AFTER Mazda has already replaced the broken bracket.

Mazda updated the bracket to "C" revision. From the outside it looks exactly the same, so dint know what has changed. Maybe the materiao? Who knows. But always good to someone to cover some of the known weak spot.

SilverEIGHT 12-28-2011 07:22 PM

For what it's worth, mine snapped 50,000 miles ago. I had the guys at the company I work for weld it up and I also installed the "Mazsport" (at the time) brace on as well. It has been flawless ever since. I'm about 112K now. The extra support of the now "RaceRoots" bracket was a good move. I never got a warranty replacement.

dmitrik4 12-28-2011 08:43 PM


Originally Posted by Kamui157 (Post 4152412)
Clutch pedal just broke this morning on way to work. Can barely get trans into gear as the pedal still BARELY works.

Ordered a raceroots bracket but should I try to get mazda to replace the unit first? but don't want to bring the car in with turbo and void warranties.

Does bringing them the broken clutch assembly to replace work?

your turbos aren't going to cancel the recall on the clutch pedals. mine was replaced free by the dealer under the recall when it was creaking; i didn't wait until it broke to deal with it.

Blackfire 01-02-2012 05:52 AM

The recalled pedal is completely the same if not worst... my pedal broke again after i had it replaced by mazda... Problem i am having is i am over 100k and i alrdy had it replaced :(... Hopfully they arent ass holes and give me a new pedal...

Grace_Excel 01-02-2012 07:50 AM

Buy a new one at the dealer and follow the required info on page 3 in the letter bellow.

http://www.gerhardstein.net/picturestokeep/RX8SSP82.PDF

Otherwise, weld it and buy the RaceRoots bracket.

200.mph 01-02-2012 07:51 AM

do what i did and weld it. no need to spend $ on a bracket. it takes less than 30 minutes to remove weld and install. rock solid

firebirdude 01-02-2012 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by Blackfire (Post 4155231)
The recalled pedal is completely the same if not worst... my pedal broke again after i had it replaced by mazda... Problem i am having is i am over 100k and i alrdy had it replaced :(... Hopfully they arent ass holes and give me a new pedal...

Do you really have two silver rims and two black rims? And that enormous spoiler?

200.mph 01-02-2012 09:13 AM


Originally Posted by firebirdude (Post 4155260)
Do you really have two silver rims and two black rims? And that enormous spoiler?

what does that have to do with the clutch pedal? i kinda like the evo wing

FastFreddy61 01-02-2012 09:38 AM

Well, at least he has something hang his towel on at the beach.
Blackfire, why would you replace the bracket with a bracket which is the same, without reinforcing it. I dont think you can call them assholes if your warranty is up.

SilverEIGHT 01-02-2012 11:58 AM

Blackfire: Welding is sufficient. I chose to use the bracket also for added support. If you choose to weld and install the bracket, be very careful not to weld in places that will effect the installation of the bracket.

ASH8 01-02-2012 08:00 PM

Keep in mind the "Modded" C OE Clutch Pedal Bracket did not happen until Sept 15th 2008, so anyone who had a new Bracket (B) installed before that date did not get the "revised" one.

Grace_Excel 01-02-2012 10:41 PM

I bought the "C" bracket three months before the Mazda recall was implemented. 34,000 miles and still holding. One issue everyone needs to check is the 12mm nut located on the upper left bolt. It's a tight area to have wrench or ratchet because of the cables and electrical wires. Make sure that nut is tight.

ASH8 01-03-2012 02:24 AM

Again this is NOT a Recall!

It is a SSP (Special Service Programm), an extended 8 year warranty for ALL NA customers.

From Mazda NAO to 8 Owners in the Warranty Period.

Mazda Motor Corporation has decided to conduct a Special Service Program (SSP) to extend
the warranty coverage for the clutch pedal assembly (replacement of the clutch pedal assembly
due to a problem with the clutch pedal bracket) on certain 2004-2009 RX-8 vehicles, produced
from April 10, 2003 through September 13, 2008.
The warranty coverage for the clutch pedal assembly will be extended to 8 years (96 months)
from the original warranty start date, with a 100,000 mileage limitation. If you are a recipient of
this notice, your vehicle is included in this program.


On certain 2004-2009 RX-8 vehicles, it is possible that the clutch pedal bracket may have a
crack, causing an abnormal noise. If the clutch pedal continues to be operated with this
condition, the clutch pedal bracket may break, changing the disengagement point of the clutch
and possibly preventing the shifting of gears.
If your RX-8 experiences this symptom, please make an appointment with a Mazda dealer to
have the vehicle inspected. If the clutch and/or shifting problem is due to the broken clutch
pedal bracket, your dealer will replace the clutch pedal assembly free of charge, during the
terms of this warranty extension program.
If your vehicle is functioning normally, there is no need to contact your dealer. We suggest
keeping this letter with the vehicle’s warranty information booklet for future reference.


If you have already paid for the replacement of the clutch pedal assembly due to a problem with the clutch pedal bracket,
you may be eligible for reimbursement of reasonable repair expenses based on Mazda’s repair standards.
Please complete the enclosed “Reimbursement
Application Form,” including the necessary
documentation, and mail it to us in the preaddressed
envelope provided, allowing 6-8 weeks for processing.

ASH8 01-03-2012 02:30 AM

Repair Procedure..
 
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Repair Procedure..

Blackfire 01-03-2012 02:57 AM

well first i expected the replacement was better, but before i replaced it i was using my old 1 that was welded but the original was having problems hence why i replaced it. I thought about getting a RR bracket but i honestly did not know it was the same thing i guess i jumped the gun on the letter i got and expected it to be a "recall" but LOL i learned my lesson now. I ordered my RR bracket and had to buy a brand new pedal, and I am waiting for a response from HQ either to refund me for the 2nd bracket. The dealer contacted HQ and stated that the pedal broke under a year after replacement and etc... so it is a possibility I will get my money back for it :)

On the other note I could weld the old 1 back together but I need my car up and running asap and the pedal is pretty mangled... It broke in 3 pieces...I would have welded it back together but I was on a time limit.

I installed the new pedal but I am still dissatisfied since the switch for starting the car does not engage when pedal is depressed... The bracket the holds the switch is welded about 1-3mm too far back so the switch doesnt engine :( modification was involved...

Thx for all the responses to help, but I was kind of venting since it has been problem after problem lately :(

Blackfire 01-03-2012 03:04 AM


Originally Posted by firebirdude (Post 4155260)
Do you really have two silver rims and two black rims? And that enormous spoiler?

LOL no actually I have 1 Silver rim @.@ so 3 black and 1 silver. the story is that i broke a rim and had to replace it with a a silver 1 with same size/offset. Also it is a EVO 8 spoiler lol I have a custom made gurney flap to increase its efficiency. As of now with the gurney flap and the evo spoiler I am getting about 110lb of downforce at 80mph which I feel makes a difference. :)

ASH8 01-03-2012 03:27 AM

I would be looking in another direction if a "new" bracket has failed early and it was installed correctly.
1. Is the Clutch Master Cylinder OK?
2. Slave Cylinder.?
3. Clutch itself, if it is a "heavier" duty that OEM Exedy or a different Fly Wheel maybe?
4. Transmission ?

Blackfire 01-03-2012 03:42 AM

I am currently thinking it is my new clutch since i got a Exedy Stage 1 HD, but even before that it was acting weird already. I wouldnt mind replacing both Master/Slave cylinder but its a pain and cost more money than I want :( I did buy the RR bracket and should be in soon so I plan to install it and weld up the new clutch pedal just for extra insurance :)

SilverEIGHT 01-03-2012 04:32 AM

It is my understanding that the Exedy Stage 1 is the same clutch as OEM.

RIWWP 01-03-2012 06:51 AM

No. I replaced my OEM with Exedy Stage 1, and it is most definitely NOT the same clutch. OEM is an Exedy made clutch, but they are 2 different models.

Blackfire 01-03-2012 10:15 AM

Well it feels the same lol, but iono if it is the same but it could be

RIWWP 01-03-2012 10:18 AM

The stage 1 is slightly gripper and quite a bit more noisy than OEM.

If you can't tell the difference, then you either had a stage 1 and not an OEM, or you replaced it with another OEM (even if it was sold to you as a 'stage 1).

pianoman-1 01-03-2012 09:19 PM

Crappy Clutch Bracket
 
Mine broke with about 59,000 on it in the summer of 2010. Fourteen months later in the fall of 2011, it broke again. No way there's anything 'new or improved' about the new bracket. What a piece of crap.

ASH8 01-03-2012 11:17 PM

You still should be checking the rest of your drive train (Clutch), any strain/pressure will go to the weakest link and sadly that is the Bracket.

Kamui157 01-04-2012 07:57 AM


I installed the new pedal but I am still dissatisfied since the switch for starting the car does not engage when pedal is depressed... The bracket the holds the switch is welded about 1-3mm too far back so the switch doesnt engine :( modification was involved...
I had the same problem on 2 brackets I just installed. I've taken the switch apart and the only advice I have is, "Man up" and pull the plunger out. The switch resets itself to a new "fully down position" as clutch pedal travel changes. When the bracket breaks, it's highly likely the new fully down position was further than unbroken position therefore you need to firmly pull it out to reset it. Once you press down the clutch, it will set the new position again.

DungeonKeeper 01-04-2012 10:01 AM

mine is a 2004, however I did receive a letter stating that the pedal is cover for 100k or 10 years I know the mileages is right, the years not sure.

Blackfire 01-04-2012 01:03 PM

its 100k or 8 years

Grace_Excel 01-04-2012 05:45 PM

Even if you do exceed the warranty period. You can buy a new clutch then send the form along with the reciept for reimbursement.

wonoraj 01-06-2012 02:06 PM

My clutch pedal was replaced at 61k miles in 2009. This was before the recall, and everyone at Mazda (dealership and Mazda North America) treated me like I was crazy for blaming the part. It was replaced with the same flawed part that has 100k mile warranty on it when new. I was later reimbursed by mail after the problem was acknowledged.

Yesterday at 105240 miles my clutch pedal snapped again WHILE DRIVING ON THE HIGHWAY AT RUSH HOUR. Ive known it was on it's way out since 90k miles. Again, everyone at Mazda told me it was fine back then.

Mazda is denying my warranty claim. My argument is that the part should be warrantied for 100k miles from the time of install. Mazda offered me "two $50 gift certificates as a good will gesture".

Im gonna let them hold on to those and am contacting the NHTSA, the BBB, and my lawyer buddy. This also finalizes whether or not my brother is going to get a new Mazda3. Bought the RaceRoots assembly and never giving Mazda another penny. Mazda is treating this as a joke, and I don't think it's funny.

ASH8 01-06-2012 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by wonoraj (Post 4159218)
My clutch pedal was replaced at 61k miles in 2009. This was before the recall, and everyone at Mazda (dealership and Mazda North America) treated me like I was crazy for blaming the part. It was replaced with the same flawed part that has 100k mile warranty on it when new. I was later reimbursed by mail after the problem was acknowledged.

Yesterday at 105240 miles my clutch pedal snapped again WHILE DRIVING ON THE HIGHWAY AT RUSH HOUR. Ive known it was on it's way out since 90k miles. Again, everyone at Mazda told me it was fine back then.

Mazda is denying my warranty claim. My argument is that the part should be warrantied for 100k miles from the time of install. Mazda offered me "two $50 gift certificates as a good will gesture".

Im gonna let them hold on to those and am contacting the NHTSA, the BBB, and my lawyer buddy. This also finalizes whether or not my brother is going to get a new Mazda3. Bought the RaceRoots assembly and never giving Mazda another penny. Mazda is treating this as a joke, and I don't think it's funny.

Mate..
Calm down a little...

First this is NOT and never has been a recall..

Mazda with NHTSA have agreed to an 8 year 100,000 mile extended warranty only for NA.

NO Manufacturer re-warranties a part to last another 100K miles, they would go broke.

Once your 8 year or 100K is up so is any warranty.

Parts are not meant to last forever, as a suggestion, is your Clutch Plate and PP Standard or a Heavier Duty Type?, modded??, I am suggesting you may have other issues in your clutch system IF the 09 Pedal has also broke.

ken-x8 01-06-2012 02:58 PM

Am I the only one who believes Mazda's explanation that this is caused by improper installation? If that's the case, does the new part come with installation instructions? Or is there a shop manual section or TSB describing the proper procedure?

Ken

vX-2 03-26-2012 09:03 AM

was driving out on Saturday evening, when suddenly I try to shift gear, the clutch pedal *snap sound*.... There is a squeaking noise when I decompress the clutch, not when I compress, the firmness is gone, and it feels a hell lot different than what I had been driving. I tried to find for any breakage, but without a real touchlight, I couldn't locate any real dmg. Additionally, when I press on the clutch pedal, it moves towards the brake pedal. So, both my shoes were grinding on the sides. I brought it back to the dealership this A.M. and I'm awaiting for them to check on it.

EDIT add: this is coming from a 2004' 59,169 mileage

vX-2 03-26-2012 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by RIWWP (Post 4126525)
It's basically the same one, and will eventually break. They supposedly updated it, but the update hasn't proven to be any better.

If you want a solid pedal, either the bracket from RR or the BHR assembly are the best bets. The bracket from RR requires drilling and will void the warranty on the pedal. The BHR assembly is an entirely new assembly/pedal, but won't break. Your call on which you go with.

I don't see it on BHR website, may I know how I can get them?


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