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Old May 18, 2009 | 05:47 PM
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It's the joint that's failing. If you had stronger metal there, than the spot weld would fail and the metal would hold. It doesn't matter if the metal is heavier or not. Do you see what I'm saying? The bracket itself is made of the same cheap metal, but it IS SIGNIFICANTLY stronger than it seems because of the STRESSED FRAME it makes. So yes, the metal is cheap and flimsy. BUT the metal is not the problem
ok. but all that means is that the clutch bracket works very well. because it takes all the stress off the assembly and puts it into the bracket itself. and that bracket wont bend. not without a sledge hammer.
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Old May 18, 2009 | 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by kersh4w
ok. but all that means is that the clutch bracket works very well. because it takes all the stress off the assembly and puts it into the bracket itself. and that bracket wont bend. not without a sledge hammer
Kind of. The clutch bracket works very well because it takes all of the stress and transfers it to the JOINTS. The bracket won't bend, not without significant force to the PEDAL outside of normal OPERATIONAL stress or metaphorically a sledgehammer or roundhouse kick in rage fits. But who cares about the bracket frame. Seriously, that's not the problem. The problem is the joints. They fail. Either the metal at the joint fails or the spot welds. Weld them and they won't.
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Old May 18, 2009 | 10:54 PM
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Welding works...clutch bracket works.....

You 2 sound like a couple of 12YO girls

BTW...I welded mine...and had the metal fail...now I have a clutch bracket.....so each to his own
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Old May 18, 2009 | 10:59 PM
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i keep saying it, and i'll say it till im blue in the face. the problem is 2-fold. the joints and the metal. they are both ****.

but whatever. i have a bracket, and im happy as can be.
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Old May 18, 2009 | 11:00 PM
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I think I remember
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Old May 18, 2009 | 11:01 PM
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and thank you for it.
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Old May 18, 2009 | 11:42 PM
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You guys spent so much time arguing this and that, might as well make this into a recall ?

Isnt that best of both worlds ?

So post ur broken brackets up. and report them to NHTSA.gov ?
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Old May 19, 2009 | 03:34 AM
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I'm tall and my leg does not push on the pedal straight from under the steering wheel since my knee is starting to the left of the wheel, so I imagine my clutch pedal assembly gets more a little more side-force than most. I would think that would also add to the variation in forces some assemblies have applied to them. I bought a bracket reinforcement assembly but have not installed it yet. Realistically I may never need it since I am putting so few miles on the car but I want to install it anyway. I still think part of the problem is not just Mazda being cheap but that the assembly may be designed to break-away or collapse in the event of a collision. Is the brake pedal bracket made the same way?
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Old May 19, 2009 | 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Shifty Devil
I'm tall and my leg does not push on the pedal straight from under the steering wheel since my knee is starting to the left of the wheel, so I imagine my clutch pedal assembly gets more a little more side-force than most. I would think that would also add to the variation in forces some assemblies have applied to them. I bought a bracket reinforcement assembly but have not installed it yet. Realistically I may never need it since I am putting so few miles on the car but I want to install it anyway. I still think part of the problem is not just Mazda being cheap but that the assembly may be designed to break-away or collapse in the event of a collision. Is the brake pedal bracket made the same way?
I think all of them will collapse in the event of a collision.

but the point here is that, it shouldn't break under normal condition, there are millions of cars out there and you dont see their clutch bracket breaking down as early as our 8 does.
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Old May 19, 2009 | 11:35 AM
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just got off the phone with NHTSA mine broke this past saturday I will request Mazda to keep the old part cause I want to take pictures.
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Old May 19, 2009 | 12:31 PM
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Thank you

This forum represent probably less than 5% of the whole Rx-8 community.

So if tons of us having a clutch bracket problem ... think of the outsiders ...

So yeah, if you have an issue, please report them to NHTSA.gov ! Thanks a lot !
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Old May 20, 2009 | 05:40 PM
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here are some pics yeah they charged me two hours of labor and part it all came to 421 dollars I am mad right now
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Old May 20, 2009 | 08:12 PM
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here are some pics yeah they charged me two hours of labor and part it all came to 421 dollars I am mad right now
2 hours ?

Hmm ... 1 hour the most to install and re-adjust the free play (assume that its on a lift already)

421 dollars including parts and labor hmm ... about 100 bux per hour then, cuz I think the bracket itself cost like 170-200 bux.

Is the broken bracket still in your procession ? since you paid for a new part, you can keep the old part for evidence.

Also, Save those picture in a safe place, go report your issue to NHTSA. This is a safety issue.
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Old May 20, 2009 | 11:50 PM
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no they charged me for an hour of labor even though I told them I need a new clutch pedal cause its broke.
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Old May 21, 2009 | 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by kidouninja
no they charged me for an hour of labor even though I told them I need a new clutch pedal cause its broke.
so ... they charged u ~~~ 300 bux for the pedal ?

gg my friend

Aye ... Anywayz, keep the old one, report your issue. hopefully a recall will come out, then you can ask Mazda for a FULL refund including labor charge.
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Old May 21, 2009 | 08:32 AM
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Just curious,

Has anyone filed a lawsuit against mazda b4 regarding this matter?
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Old May 21, 2009 | 09:05 AM
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Just curious,

Has anyone filed a lawsuit against mazda b4 regarding this matter?
If you bothered to file a small claims against them for the cost of the parts and labor they would just cave and pay out to settle it rather than spend more to send a rep to fight it. That is how it always works.
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Old May 21, 2009 | 11:42 AM
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its nothing that major though not death causing. you can shift without the clutch.

you might get your $20 back that you spent to weld it.
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Old May 21, 2009 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
"Break-away" from where to where?
from your foot maybe? lol

I don't think a clutch pedal would ever be designed to "break away".

fact is they use shitty steel and put on 3 spot welds they rust and boom bye bye pedal.
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Old May 22, 2009 | 12:36 AM
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well as you can see in my pictures above the pedal nearly came off completely from the piece that mounts on the firewall
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Old Jun 15, 2009 | 01:05 AM
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yay, clutch pedal snapped on me again!!! got it welded and now its broken...just gonna buy a new one!


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Old Jun 15, 2009 | 05:29 AM
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Well, now that's the first I've heard of breaking a second time. I'd like to know a little about your circumstances. How was the first weld done? do you have some good pics of the first weld and can you get some better pics of the one that just broke? I'd like to see more of the stress break. Do you have an after market clutch and what stage is it?

These images look like they are taken with a cell phone and a little too close up to focus.
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Old Jun 15, 2009 | 01:29 PM
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Just so everyone knows, I was talking to Charles Hill about the options for my squeak of death. It's REALLY obvious that BHR is mostly concerned with helping people in this community, regardless of whether he makes a sale or not.
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Old Jun 17, 2009 | 04:17 AM
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The same thing happened to me a couple of months ago.. heard squeaking the SNAP.. took it to the dealership and good thing it was covered in my warranty
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Old Jun 17, 2009 | 04:44 AM
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Originally Posted by jR_eight_Dat
The same thing happened to me a couple of months ago.. heard squeaking the SNAP.. took it to the dealership and good thing it was covered in my warranty
What year is your car?
Do you have an aftermarket clutch?
Did you purchase new or used?
How much milage?
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