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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 07:49 PM
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Car not starting, I think it's dead.. gah.. help ; ;

wondering if anyone had anything similar. I drove my car around a few days ago, no problems at all, nice and powerful. then drove it into my parking lot. well, it's been raining for the past 2 days, I hadn't started it yesterday. Today, I go to start it and I notice the started spinning faster than normal. almost like it has 0 compression at all. but about a week ago I was in the high 8's. I noticed that little steering wheel light on my dashboard.
the starter sounds like it's going twice the speed then normal. Is my engine toast?
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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 07:54 PM
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Flooded by the sound of it....I'm a little unclear of your symptoms though.....

Is it starting......??
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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 08:06 PM
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not starting... the starter is spinning the engine really fast. does this happen when it floods?
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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 08:09 PM
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Classic flood.....is it a MT? If it is...the quickest way to deflood is to tow start it
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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 08:32 PM
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ok, yeah, scared the hell out of me. It almost didn't sound like the engine had any compression in it at all. I didn't think I blew anything, because it was running really strong a few days ago, previous to that (about 2 weeks ago) I'd seafoamed my engine and ran a little in my gas tank, but that has run though since then. so my engine it decarbed fine. I've since put on a race pipe and exhaust, and it does seem to run a little richer. this would be my first flood in 6-7 months if that is the case.

Is it possible to push start it and punch the clutch in second gear?
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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 08:42 PM
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If you can get it going fast enough for long enough...

pulling it works...takes about a block at about 20mph....
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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 10:14 PM
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Does the engine crank twice as fast when it is flooded? almost like no compression?
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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 11:08 PM
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It has no compression The gas has washed off the oil coating and fouled the plugs
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 03:07 PM
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Woohoo! I got it to start!. I tried the Pedal to the floor method, no dice, I tried the Pull the fuse method, nothing. I left the fuses out. then I took off the nipples to the intake, where you put in seafoam, starter fluid, etc..
I poured a quarter of a cup of oil into a cup, then connected a hose to the nipples, and let each chamber suck up a quarter of a cup of oil each because the flooded engine washes away the oil. I noticed that my car crank was slower (Compression in the engine) thanks to the oil. and it started right up! after a few cranks. I gave it very little gas to get it to 3000 rpm. and it smoked like crazy (probibly burning off the oil)

the dealership wanted 200$ to unflood it. , thank god I saved it
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 03:17 PM
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I would do the actual procudere to decarb it. Not just dumping seafoam into the gastank. Now perhaps change the plugs.
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 03:57 PM
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I seafoam\decarbed it 2 weeks ago (through the nipples AND the gastank), and I changed out the plugs already today.
Now that I have new plugs, almost feels like I have a little more horsepower. the old plugs looked like ***.
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by marcux
Woohoo! I got it to start!. I tried the Pedal to the floor method, no dice, I tried the Pull the fuse method, nothing. I left the fuses out. then I took off the nipples to the intake, where you put in seafoam, starter fluid, etc..
I poured a quarter of a cup of oil into a cup, then connected a hose to the nipples, and let each chamber suck up a quarter of a cup of oil each because the flooded engine washes away the oil. I noticed that my car crank was slower (Compression in the engine) thanks to the oil. and it started right up! after a few cranks. I gave it very little gas to get it to 3000 rpm. and it smoked like crazy (probibly burning off the oil)

the dealership wanted 200$ to unflood it. , thank god I saved it
This works, but if you need to do it in the future, disconnect the air pump so all the extra hydrocarbons don't flame your catalytic converter.
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