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Old Jan 22, 2006 | 09:23 PM
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Wont rev over 6RPM on cold start

When i first start up my 8 and take off ive noticed if its been cold out when i get to about 6rpm the car just stops accelerating. When i let off the gas and then try again its fine. Is this normal....? Another thing is my engine light keeps comming on and then goes off usually after i fill up my tank. Ive made sure to really seal up the gas lid. Any thoughts on that?
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Old Jan 22, 2006 | 09:29 PM
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There is a cold engine lev limit...you hit the cut-off. Wait til it warms up
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Old Jan 22, 2006 | 09:44 PM
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yeah, dont fvck up your block with revving it high when cold
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Old Jan 22, 2006 | 10:54 PM
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Behold - automotive genius at work
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 12:53 AM
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It takes a while for your oil to reach operating temperature... so don't flog it when it's cold... give it 10 minutes of gentle driving before let 'er rip. There have been cases of coolant leaks caused by flogging the car when cold. Your engine casing is made from two different materials which expand at different rates... heating them up too quick can cause cracks.
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 02:05 AM
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they did it that way just for people like you, aren't you special
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 02:11 AM
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Be gentle.
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 02:42 AM
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Yeah im 19....thats my excuse. Kinda thought thats what was going on. Any Ideas about the engine light?
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 04:33 AM
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what more can i say...
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 06:56 AM
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what more can i say...
It's in the manual.
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 07:23 AM
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Man, harsh crowd.

Really any car should be warmed up before flogging it. The newer ones protect themselves. It only takes a few minutes to warm up.
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 08:38 AM
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Yeah, but forcing it to rev high by going into 2nd gear... not good man!
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 09:11 AM
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For a given throttle position, going into 2nd gear would lower the RPMs.
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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 12:34 AM
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Yeah i just always shift late...ill stop doing that now. And i follow the age of manly tradition of not reading manuals....Maybe i should stop doing that too. Thanks for setting me straight. Any ideas on the engine light though? Its bothering me and there aint no Mazda dealer for almost 100 miles from here.

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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 10:26 AM
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its most likely your gas gap. it may have alittle leak. but without knowing the code its really difficult to make a call. does it come on when you first start the car? are you sure its the CEL? there was a person not long ago that was confusing the TPMS light witht he CEL. that could come on in the cold morning and then go off after a few minutes of driving.
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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 01:52 PM
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Revving an engine when it's cold can be potentially dangerous to the engine, especially a rotary. The rotary engines housings are made up of alternating cast iron and aluminum. Both of these metals have very different heat expansion properties. When you rev up a cold motor, you are creating lots of heat in the combustion chamber. Since the heat is mostly on one side of the rotary, this leaves half of the engine hot and the other half not. The hot side can expand faster due to this heat difference which will really affect the aluminum housings the most. They can warp and when they do, they won't go back to normal. This will lead to coolant leaks between housings and you'll need an engine rebuild. You absolutely need to warm the engine up gradually. It is very important.
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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 02:30 PM
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I'd get that airbag thing fixed semi soon.

It could be serious.
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Old Feb 10, 2006 | 07:45 PM
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When you filled up your gas tank and the check engine light came on, how many times did you keep filling after the first click? When I purchased my 8 the dealer told me a number of quick tips and one was not to go past the first click while filling up gas or you will get a CEL.
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Old Feb 11, 2006 | 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by t-run/8
When you filled up your gas tank and the check engine light came on, how many times did you keep filling after the first click? When I purchased my 8 the dealer told me a number of quick tips and one was not to go past the first click while filling up gas or you will get a CEL.
I am always amazed at the BS the dealers spew out these days. What he may have meant to tell you was that when you reinstall the gas cap, screw it in until you hear it click at least once. A non-sealing gas cap will cause a CEL.
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Old Feb 11, 2006 | 10:23 PM
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Whatever, just saying what they told me.
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Old Feb 12, 2006 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Go48
I am always amazed at the BS the dealers spew out these days.
To flame, or not to flame?! (About filling the gas cap - I think the original poster has been flamed enough about how stupid it is to rev high and run hard a cold engine, about not reading manuals, and about having so much money at age 19 that he can afford to ruin an engine through deliberate abuse) Nah, no flames this time -

Overfilling a gas tank beyond the auto shutoff CAN cause a CEL - if you overfill, you risk having raw fuel get into the evaporative emissions system, which can flood the charcoal canister, which definitely will light the CEL. There was a discussion about this subject here almost 2 years ago, and I posted links to several articles that discussed this - here's that discussion

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Old Feb 12, 2006 | 08:44 PM
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Never had a CEL or any adverse affects.
Here's why. The RX-8 has a fuel shut-off valve in the line to the charcoal canister that closes during refuelling, fuel sloshing or vehicle rollover. You can't get fuel into the charcoal canister.
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Old Feb 13, 2006 | 07:17 AM
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Ah, so many experts, so many opinions. Thank you for clarifying that Steve.
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