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B-Ron 01-22-2006 09:23 PM

Wont rev over 6RPM on cold start
 
When i first start up my 8 and take off ive noticed if its been cold out when i get to about 6rpm the car just stops accelerating. When i let off the gas and then try again its fine. Is this normal....? Another thing is my engine light keeps comming on and then goes off usually after i fill up my tank. Ive made sure to really seal up the gas lid. Any thoughts on that?

dannobre 01-22-2006 09:29 PM

There is a cold engine lev limit...you hit the cut-off. Wait til it warms up :D:

BlueRenesis82 01-22-2006 09:44 PM

yeah, dont fvck up your block with revving it high when cold

rxevolved 01-22-2006 10:54 PM

Behold - automotive genius at work

sco 01-23-2006 12:53 AM

It takes a while for your oil to reach operating temperature... so don't flog it when it's cold... give it 10 minutes of gentle driving before let 'er rip. There have been cases of coolant leaks caused by flogging the car when cold. Your engine casing is made from two different materials which expand at different rates... heating them up too quick can cause cracks.

TeamRX8 01-23-2006 02:05 AM

they did it that way just for people like you, aren't you special :D:

NgoRX8 01-23-2006 02:11 AM

Be gentle. ;)

B-Ron 01-23-2006 02:42 AM

Yeah im 19....thats my excuse. Kinda thought thats what was going on. Any Ideas about the engine light?

RX4life 01-23-2006 04:33 AM

:spank: :sad: :wallbash: :boxing_sm :flamed: :moon: :greenchai :balls: :Kill1: :Kill2: :tank: :pfanndina :smileysho :uzi: :op: :tool: :uh:


what more can i say...

DarkBrew 01-23-2006 06:56 AM


Originally Posted by RX4life

what more can i say...

It's in the manual.

Chrisbert 01-23-2006 07:23 AM

Man, harsh crowd.

Really any car should be warmed up before flogging it. The newer ones protect themselves. It only takes a few minutes to warm up.

Imidazole 01-23-2006 08:38 AM

Yeah, but forcing it to rev high by going into 2nd gear... not good man!

Chrisbert 01-23-2006 09:11 AM

For a given throttle position, going into 2nd gear would lower the RPMs.

B-Ron 01-24-2006 12:34 AM

Yeah i just always shift late...ill stop doing that now. And i follow the age of manly tradition of not reading manuals....Maybe i should stop doing that too. Thanks for setting me straight. Any ideas on the engine light though? Its bothering me and there aint no Mazda dealer for almost 100 miles from here.

zoom44 01-24-2006 10:26 AM

its most likely your gas gap. it may have alittle leak. but without knowing the code its really difficult to make a call. does it come on when you first start the car? are you sure its the CEL? there was a person not long ago that was confusing the TPMS light witht he CEL. that could come on in the cold morning and then go off after a few minutes of driving.

rotarygod 01-24-2006 01:52 PM

Revving an engine when it's cold can be potentially dangerous to the engine, especially a rotary. The rotary engines housings are made up of alternating cast iron and aluminum. Both of these metals have very different heat expansion properties. When you rev up a cold motor, you are creating lots of heat in the combustion chamber. Since the heat is mostly on one side of the rotary, this leaves half of the engine hot and the other half not. The hot side can expand faster due to this heat difference which will really affect the aluminum housings the most. They can warp and when they do, they won't go back to normal. This will lead to coolant leaks between housings and you'll need an engine rebuild. You absolutely need to warm the engine up gradually. It is very important.

Cool-Blue-Dad 01-24-2006 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by B-Ron
Yeah i just always shift late...ill stop doing that now. And i follow the age of manly tradition of not reading manuals....Maybe i should stop doing that too. Thanks for setting me straight. Any ideas on the engine light though? Its bothering me and there aint no Mazda dealer for almost 100 miles from here.

Ooof, I hope you were kidding about manly tradition of not reading manuals. Do you really trust us - a bunch of folks who don't use their real names on the internet - first and foremost to tell you truthful and accurate information about your car? Read man, read.

My most trusted dealer is ~100 miles away too. I feel your pain, but when the car is under warrenty the dealer is your best bet. In 4 months I've been to see them once for warrenty service and once to have them repair some accident damage. I need to make another trip because my airbag light comes on from time to time, but that'll keep until I find a convenient day to drive up there.

Imidazole 01-24-2006 02:30 PM

I'd get that airbag thing fixed semi soon.

It could be serious.

Cool-Blue-Dad 01-24-2006 02:47 PM


Originally Posted by Imidazole
I'd get that airbag thing fixed semi soon.

It could be serious.

I hate to get too far off topic from the thread, but, yeah, I'm gonna get it fixed pretty quick here. I talked to the dealer and had planned to go there last Friday, but was busy at work and sick so I post-poned to this Friday.

The light is likely flashing because there is some problem with the new airbag modules they installed after my deer-strike. I *used* my airbag system once already - I fully intend to keep it fully functioning at all times. ;) However, it's not on all the time so I have fair confidence the system is online. Once or twice while driving the light came on and stayed on or flashed and then stayed solid on. Didn't happen at start-up, only after several minutes of driving. Since the light did stay on at least once the dealer is confident the computer would have stored a code so they'll look into it.

Nopstnz 02-10-2006 07:45 PM

When you filled up your gas tank and the check engine light came on, how many times did you keep filling after the first click? When I purchased my 8 the dealer told me a number of quick tips and one was not to go past the first click while filling up gas or you will get a CEL.

Go48 02-11-2006 07:05 AM


Originally Posted by t-run/8
When you filled up your gas tank and the check engine light came on, how many times did you keep filling after the first click? When I purchased my 8 the dealer told me a number of quick tips and one was not to go past the first click while filling up gas or you will get a CEL.

I am always amazed at the BS the dealers spew out these days. What he may have meant to tell you was that when you reinstall the gas cap, screw it in until you hear it click at least once. A non-sealing gas cap will cause a CEL.

Nopstnz 02-11-2006 10:23 PM

Whatever, just saying what they told me.

Gord96BRG 02-12-2006 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by Go48
I am always amazed at the BS the dealers spew out these days.

To flame, or not to flame?! (About filling the gas cap - I think the original poster has been flamed enough about how stupid it is to rev high and run hard a cold engine, about not reading manuals, and about having so much money at age 19 that he can afford to ruin an engine through deliberate abuse) Nah, no flames this time -

Overfilling a gas tank beyond the auto shutoff CAN cause a CEL - if you overfill, you risk having raw fuel get into the evaporative emissions system, which can flood the charcoal canister, which definitely will light the CEL. There was a discussion about this subject here almost 2 years ago, and I posted links to several articles that discussed this - here's that discussion

Regards,
Gordon

Gomez 02-12-2006 08:44 PM


Originally Posted by Ryan13b
Never had a CEL or any adverse affects.

Here's why. The RX-8 has a fuel shut-off valve in the line to the charcoal canister that closes during refuelling, fuel sloshing or vehicle rollover. You can't get fuel into the charcoal canister.

Go48 02-13-2006 07:17 AM

Ah, so many experts, so many opinions. Thank you for clarifying that Steve.


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