Value of RX-8 w/out motor?
07-03-2012, 07:31 PM
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*hugs my computer*
Let me clarify the pricing of the different builds:
1. $2,000 get's me a Mazda reman from a third party supplier and this is where my awesome frinds and rotory brotherhood come in to help me rebuild.[
2. $6,000 - $10,000 is what I estimate on a primo rebuild with all new oil distribution, fuel pump, oil coolers, cooling modifications that will make this car as good as it can be. I think $7,000 is appropriate but I like to pad so I'm not suprised. When I say I want it right, I don't want any fkn around, I want it better than new.
1. $2,000 get's me a Mazda reman from a third party supplier and this is where my awesome frinds and rotory brotherhood come in to help me rebuild.[
2. $6,000 - $10,000 is what I estimate on a primo rebuild with all new oil distribution, fuel pump, oil coolers, cooling modifications that will make this car as good as it can be. I think $7,000 is appropriate but I like to pad so I'm not suprised. When I say I want it right, I don't want any fkn around, I want it better than new.
3. NY... your generous offer is as Denny was saying, causing me to hesitate. Not that I'm going to have my car towed up to see you but simply the concern for fellow rotor enthusiest.
The "Master Tech", as I was told by the service desk person, did this bonehead attempt for the first time on my car. Nice to know, eh! He said He did it by the book from Mazda.
This whole thing was so fked up it makes me sick thinking about it. Many thought I should have taken them to court but the first thing the Service Manager said to me when I met him for the first time was: "Mr. Yaun, where did this issue first occure? He knew damn well where it happened and that was his out, and he knew it.
This is all out of context and is hard to follow if you have not read the thread:
Silver's Coolant Leak, Repar & Damage
... because it does not detail the extent of the coolant leak, the fact that I was preparing for a track event with the Mazda Service Center full knowledge and was headed to the track as soon as they handed me the keys. As I walked out the door, I was stopped and told, the work was under warranty. Drove to the track, next day after the warm-up lap, I gradudally worked up speed and on the 3rd lap, I opened it up after passing the start/finish line and it happend in between turn one and two which is a double apex. Yea, they knew I was going to the track and used it for an excuse. One I could not rebut.
This is all out of context and is hard to follow if you have not read the thread:
Silver's Coolant Leak, Repar & Damage
... because it does not detail the extent of the coolant leak, the fact that I was preparing for a track event with the Mazda Service Center full knowledge and was headed to the track as soon as they handed me the keys. As I walked out the door, I was stopped and told, the work was under warranty. Drove to the track, next day after the warm-up lap, I gradudally worked up speed and on the 3rd lap, I opened it up after passing the start/finish line and it happend in between turn one and two which is a double apex. Yea, they knew I was going to the track and used it for an excuse. One I could not rebut.
yeah, track is evil, every single freaking car that goes on it will self destruct, YEP
oh man, Mazda keep saying people race Mazda more than anything else. oh yeah.
MNA told them if the thrust bearing had dropped, it would never have made it off of their lot. My creditable sources tell me different and one of the two was Roger Mandeville. He was sent the photos of the damage. Their ain't no denying his creditentials. Guess the "Master Tech" knows more than Roger! 
According to Mazda's "MAZDA KNOWS BEST OUTSIDER KNOW NOTHING, NADA, ZERO" analogy, of course Mazda's "Omg this is my first time doing this and I am doing this according to the workshop manual which is the holy bible for me on rx8"
is somehow better/smarter than
people who works/fix/mod these engines/cars for a LIVING, did I say living? oh yeah, they work on it every day and requires no freaking manual and knows what is GRAVITY.
Typing this on an iPad usually results in strangly spelled words. Sorry if I made it hard to read.
oldragger, thanks for covering my back as I'm away from connectivity. No one knows this saga better.
oldragger, thanks for covering my back as I'm away from connectivity. No one knows this saga better.
Edit:
Denny: I still have the RE-11's. Haven't worked it out with Eric yet.
NY: Since I do not run TT anyomore, I decided to go from Hoosiers to a streatable track tire and have been told from reliable sources that the RE-11's were awesome tires. I have driven on a borrowed set before and they were great. The guy that loaned them to me was trying his best to wear them out so he could get new tires. I drove them on Road Atlanta and after I finished, L8APEX drove them another time and I think Jason drove them even a couple times more. He was pissed they would not wear out. I think they cycled before the tread was gone. I can say the few laps I did get on track with the new rubber was more than adiquit for streatable tires.
Denny: I still have the RE-11's. Haven't worked it out with Eric yet.
NY: Since I do not run TT anyomore, I decided to go from Hoosiers to a streatable track tire and have been told from reliable sources that the RE-11's were awesome tires. I have driven on a borrowed set before and they were great. The guy that loaned them to me was trying his best to wear them out so he could get new tires. I drove them on Road Atlanta and after I finished, L8APEX drove them another time and I think Jason drove them even a couple times more. He was pissed they would not wear out. I think they cycled before the tread was gone. I can say the few laps I did get on track with the new rubber was more than adiquit for streatable tires.
Last edited by nycgps; 07-03-2012 at 07:37 PM.
07-03-2012, 07:33 PM
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Get the quality rebuild and pay the money. The right builder with the right parts and features will give you an engine with a very good service life, assuming you do your part and care for it accordingly. Most people here have no idea what a quality rebuild is. Even the original engines from Mazda were more misses than hits.
07-03-2012, 08:00 PM
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Get the quality rebuild and pay the money. The right builder with the right parts and features will give you an engine with a very good service life, assuming you do your part and care for it accordingly. Most people here have no idea what a quality rebuild is. Even the original engines from Mazda were more misses than hits.
However, I am looking at a couple alternatives to the RX8.
07-03-2012, 09:07 PM
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Get the quality rebuild and pay the money. The right builder with the right parts and features will give you an engine with a very good service life, assuming you do your part and care for it accordingly. Most people here have no idea what a quality rebuild is. Even the original engines from Mazda were more misses than hits.
I know I won't.
I was considering couple of them, the RE11, AD08, Starspec and the Ecsta XS.
Ecsta is obviously the cheapest. and RE11 the most expensive.
I'm just waiting for Bridgestones to throw some sort of rebates out before I buy them. they always do that, and it can go up to 100 bux. I can still AutoX with my RE960 A/S Pole Position (yeah, I know -_-) that I bought 2 years ago. still have plenty of threads but not so great at last AutoX. (sLIiiDDDDeeee)
will keep checking. thx man
07-12-2012, 09:36 PM
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Get the quality rebuild and pay the money. The right builder with the right parts and features will give you an engine with a very good service life, assuming you do your part and care for it accordingly. Most people here have no idea what a quality rebuild is. Even the original engines from Mazda were more misses than hits.
Thanks guys fro all your comments.
07-14-2012, 08:30 AM
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I'd love to follow it through all stages but the distance will be the problem. Marietta might as well be on the other side of the world because I just can't get over there easily, except on the weekend. I'd LOVE to get pics of the engine build and the installation. I'll just have to settle for an occasional pic unless Charlie can capture for me. Guess I could post some pics of it as it sits now and of the damage caused as a start.
EDIT:
Breakdown at the track.
This is the way I got the car back from Ivory Mazda.
Damaged bearing.
EDIT:
Breakdown at the track.
This is the way I got the car back from Ivory Mazda.
Damaged bearing.
Last edited by SilverEIGHT; 07-14-2012 at 09:26 AM. Reason: Adding pictures.
08-31-2012, 07:10 PM
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So, what did you do about tires?
My engine is sitting on the floor at Rick Ingman's waiting for it's turn. It seems to be getting bumped for the 3 & 4 rotor race engines. Hope it absorbs some of that power.
My engine is sitting on the floor at Rick Ingman's waiting for it's turn. It seems to be getting bumped for the 3 & 4 rotor race engines. Hope it absorbs some of that power.
12-07-2015, 08:22 AM
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I hate to try and revive a 3 year old thread thats already been answered but it seemed better than starting a duplicate. I have an 06 GT MT with a blown engine and we've got a few years time difference so values have changed now.
I know I'm gonna take a loss on this car either way if I do actually sell it, I'm just not sure how much of a loss I should be prepared for.
body is in decent overall shape, theres a spot on the front bumper under the headlight with flaking clear and the driver doors have scuffs and some hardly noticeable dings but they are on the creases so that raises some concern. then theres a small dent in the back driver fender that would be easily popped out by paintless dent repair tech.
No Nav but its got heated leather seats, heated mirrors, spoiler, premium sound etc. (not going to list all the stuff you already know comes in a GT) metallic gray mica original wheels in good shape. engine had 101k when she blew. (1000 miles after I bought the car -.-)
My plan was to rebuild this engine ASAP after buying it but that was when I could still drive the car, now I need to find something to get me through the winter and I can't afford a rebuild this early, I hoped the car would get me through 'til tax season in its original condition and it did not so I don't know what to do with it...
I still owe $3300 plus the money I payed in taxes, registration, general maintenance since I bought it... I'm going to lose money one way or the other right?
What's it worth now?
I know I'm gonna take a loss on this car either way if I do actually sell it, I'm just not sure how much of a loss I should be prepared for.
body is in decent overall shape, theres a spot on the front bumper under the headlight with flaking clear and the driver doors have scuffs and some hardly noticeable dings but they are on the creases so that raises some concern. then theres a small dent in the back driver fender that would be easily popped out by paintless dent repair tech.
No Nav but its got heated leather seats, heated mirrors, spoiler, premium sound etc. (not going to list all the stuff you already know comes in a GT) metallic gray mica original wheels in good shape. engine had 101k when she blew. (1000 miles after I bought the car -.-)
My plan was to rebuild this engine ASAP after buying it but that was when I could still drive the car, now I need to find something to get me through the winter and I can't afford a rebuild this early, I hoped the car would get me through 'til tax season in its original condition and it did not so I don't know what to do with it...
I still owe $3300 plus the money I payed in taxes, registration, general maintenance since I bought it... I'm going to lose money one way or the other right?
What's it worth now?
12-07-2015, 08:00 PM
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I would say u be lucky to be able to sell it just to cover all the money u owe.
cuz 90% of the time people wants a "working" car ---- even u tell them the engine has pos compression, only a few would be looking for a roller (or car with dead engine) for cheap.
cuz 90% of the time people wants a "working" car ---- even u tell them the engine has pos compression, only a few would be looking for a roller (or car with dead engine) for cheap.
12-08-2015, 08:37 AM
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Thanks for the confirmation. Thats what I thought, but you do think theres a chance I can break even? I still want to save up for a new engine (reman) but I think I'll post it for sale and see if theres any takers. if anyone would buy it at close to me breaking even I'll sell it and if not Ill replace the engine and have an awesome car.
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