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Old 02-10-2011, 01:17 AM
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using 2-stroke oil (not premixing)

I was reading up the oil premix thread and I was curious if anyone has tried using a high quality synthetic 2-stroke oil (instead of 4-stroke engine oil) as your main oil source, not for premixing. I don't know if this has been asked before, but anyways: if you use 2_stroke oil (which is design to burn without leaving residue) instead of regular motor oil, wouldn't it help keep the engine cleaner, and create less carbon build up? or is 2-stroke oil not suitable for lubricating the internals (bearings) in the engine?
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it's not suitable
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If KY and Astroglide is suitable for lessening frictional forces during intercourse, then it must work for rotary engine internals, right?

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It'd shear down far too quickly. You'd be changing it every 100 miles.
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Try it and let me know how it works out for you.
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Originally Posted by SayNoToPistons
If KY and Astroglide is suitable for lessening frictional forces during intercourse, then it must work for rotary engine internals, right?
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It'd shear down far too quickly. You'd be changing it every 100 miles.
How many miles for astroglide? Would it be worth the extra oil/lube changes?
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Originally Posted by rz-jacks
I was reading up the oil premix thread and I was curious if anyone has tried using a high quality synthetic 2-stroke oil (instead of 4-stroke engine oil) as your main oil source, not for premixing. I don't know if this has been asked before, but anyways: if you use 2_stroke oil (which is design to burn without leaving residue) instead of regular motor oil, wouldn't it help keep the engine cleaner, and create less carbon build up? or is 2-stroke oil not suitable for lubricating the internals (bearings) in the engine?
Get yourself a Sohn adapter and oil tank.

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At least he asked before he tried... Haha
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hahahahahaaha I knew this was gonna end bad.... I was curious about what the differences between the two types of oil where, so I was hoping someone knowledgeable could jump in and give some info about it. too bad so many people can't wait to call someone stupid for being curious about something. its not like I'm suggesting using canola oil..... If you want to see stupidity then you might enjoy something like this: http://www.lancerregister.com/showthread.php?t=224101

it would be interesting if mazda changes they lubrication system so that instead of using the oil from the sump, they would just have a separate oil tank for the OMP. That way you could run a lighter grade synthetic for the internals and use a 2-stroke oil type (burns cleaner) for lubricating the apex seals. sort of like a oil injected 2 stroke engine.
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Originally Posted by PhillipM
268bhp@9100rpm. Bwaaaarrrppppp.
On a 2.5" exhaust system, size isn't everything...


WHAT!?

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Originally Posted by rz-jacks
it would be interesting if mazda changes they lubrication system so that instead of using the oil from the sump, they would just have a separate oil tank for the OMP. That way you could run a lighter grade synthetic for the internals and use a 2-stroke oil type (burns cleaner) for lubricating the apex seals. sort of like a oil injected 2 stroke engine.
Hello... See post 10 above...
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If only someone would invent such a thing...
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never any harm in asking questions dude--no one is born knowing.
There is a lot of info "out there" just look it up. Your question is a valid one, it wont work, but you are thinking in the right way.
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Originally Posted by PhillipM;3876923[B
]It'd shear down far too quickly[/B]. You'd be changing it every 100 miles.
Originally Posted by rz-jacks
I was hoping someone knowledgeable could jump in and give some info about it
That's your answer right there. It's not meant to cycle through the engine, just get burned. Also, there is an adapter that goes between the OMP and the oil pan. It's called the Sohn adapter. You just need your own bottle, and you can run standard 4 cycle oil through the crankcase, and run 2 cycle through the rotor housings.
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Originally Posted by rz-jacks
hahahahahaaha I knew this was gonna end bad.... I was curious about what the differences between the two types of oil where, so I was hoping someone knowledgeable could jump in and give some info about it. too bad so many people can't wait to call someone stupid for being curious about something. its not like I'm suggesting using canola oil..... If you want to see stupidity then you might enjoy something like this: http://www.lancerregister.com/showthread.php?t=224101

it would be interesting if mazda changes they lubrication system so that instead of using the oil from the sump, they would just have a separate oil tank for the OMP. That way you could run a lighter grade synthetic for the internals and use a 2-stroke oil type (burns cleaner) for lubricating the apex seals. sort of like a oil injected 2 stroke engine.

Well maybe if you read instead of posting random bullshit you would not get smart *** replies. You were answered, you just chose not to read at all.

No know one expects you to be knowledgeable right away but we expect you to at least make some type of a valid effort to research.

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There are two or three threads which helped me the most. First was the premix thread. It's super long, but you will get the whole story. Next was the possible failure thread, and that has tooooons of good info. There was another one in there somewhere, but I can't remember what it is.
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Originally Posted by rz-jacks
hahahahahaaha I knew this was gonna end bad.... I was curious about what the differences between the two types of oil where, so I was hoping someone knowledgeable could jump in and give some info about it. too bad so many people can't wait to call someone stupid for being curious about something. its not like I'm suggesting using canola oil..... If you want to see stupidity then you might enjoy something like this: http://www.lancerregister.com/showthread.php?t=224101
if you actually spend the time and read or just google the info (in ur case, the 2 stroke use as engine oil bs), you will get your answer in less than 5 minutes.

you got what you deserved, simple.

it would be interesting if mazda changes they lubrication system so that instead of using the oil from the sump, they would just have a separate oil tank for the OMP. That way you could run a lighter grade synthetic for the internals and use a 2-stroke oil type (burns cleaner) for lubricating the apex seals. sort of like a oil injected 2 stroke engine.
same as above.

in case you are too stupid to search, I be nice just this one time, Mazda "knew" that its better to separate them 40 years ago. but the MARKETING department back then said no one will want to buy a car like that. so thats how OMP system was born.

I guess everybody here would agreed to the marketing department. most idiots are stupid/lazy enough NOT to check their oil level, you expect them to be able to tell the difference between 2 stroke/4 cycle engine oil & fill them up ?

Got it now smarty ?

next time do ur homework b4 u make any stupid threads.
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Originally Posted by rz-jacks
too bad so many people can't wait to call someone stupid for being curious about something. its not like I'm suggesting using canola oil
Persevere is diabolical.

Originally Posted by rz-jacks
it would be interesting if mazda changes they lubrication system so that instead of using the oil from the sump, they would just have a separate oil tank for the OMP. That way you could run a lighter grade synthetic for the internals and use a 2-stroke oil type (burns cleaner) for lubricating the apex seals. sort of like a oil injected 2 stroke engine.
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Tried telling him twice already... it would seem he's not listening....
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Originally Posted by Wert4580
WHAT!?

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Originally Posted by DarkBrew
Tried telling him twice already... it would seem he's not listening....
Oh man, are you talking about that hot new product nobody has even heard about? I think it's an adapter or something that allows you to run 2 cycle through the rotor housings. It's in early development, so it's everybody's secret!


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