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rz-jacks 02-10-2011 01:17 AM

using 2-stroke oil (not premixing)
 
I was reading up the oil premix thread and I was curious if anyone has tried using a high quality synthetic 2-stroke oil (instead of 4-stroke engine oil) as your main oil source, not for premixing. I don't know if this has been asked before, but anyways: if you use 2_stroke oil (which is design to burn without leaving residue) instead of regular motor oil, wouldn't it help keep the engine cleaner, and create less carbon build up? or is 2-stroke oil not suitable for lubricating the internals (bearings) in the engine?

> MAO < 02-10-2011 01:30 AM

O m g

laythor 02-10-2011 01:32 AM

it's not suitable

SayNoToPistons 02-10-2011 02:22 AM

If KY and Astroglide is suitable for lessening frictional forces during intercourse, then it must work for rotary engine internals, right?

rx 8speciale 02-10-2011 06:32 AM

lol what?

PhillipM 02-10-2011 06:54 AM

It'd shear down far too quickly. You'd be changing it every 100 miles.

terch1 02-10-2011 06:58 AM

Try it and let me know how it works out for you.

York 02-10-2011 07:00 AM


Originally Posted by SayNoToPistons
If KY and Astroglide is suitable for lessening frictional forces during intercourse, then it must work for rotary engine internals, right?


Originally Posted by PhillipM (Post 3876923)
It'd shear down far too quickly. You'd be changing it every 100 miles.

How many miles for astroglide? Would it be worth the extra oil/lube changes?

nycgps 02-10-2011 08:59 AM

Wow ! Wow wow wow !


two things are infinite: The universe and rz-jacks stupidity; and i'm not sure about the universe.

DarkBrew 02-10-2011 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by rz-jacks (Post 3876806)
I was reading up the oil premix thread and I was curious if anyone has tried using a high quality synthetic 2-stroke oil (instead of 4-stroke engine oil) as your main oil source, not for premixing. I don't know if this has been asked before, but anyways: if you use 2_stroke oil (which is design to burn without leaving residue) instead of regular motor oil, wouldn't it help keep the engine cleaner, and create less carbon build up? or is 2-stroke oil not suitable for lubricating the internals (bearings) in the engine?

Get yourself a Sohn adapter and oil tank.

Start reading...

9krpmrx8 02-10-2011 09:45 AM

Geesh.................................... Scary.

Beodude 02-10-2011 10:38 AM

At least he asked before he tried... Haha

rz-jacks 02-11-2011 02:30 AM

hahahahahaaha I knew this was gonna end bad.... I was curious about what the differences between the two types of oil where, so I was hoping someone knowledgeable could jump in and give some info about it. too bad so many people can't wait to call someone stupid for being curious about something. its not like I'm suggesting using canola oil..... If you want to see stupidity then you might enjoy something like this: http://www.lancerregister.com/showthread.php?t=224101

it would be interesting if mazda changes they lubrication system so that instead of using the oil from the sump, they would just have a separate oil tank for the OMP. That way you could run a lighter grade synthetic for the internals and use a 2-stroke oil type (burns cleaner) for lubricating the apex seals. sort of like a oil injected 2 stroke engine.

Wert4580 02-11-2011 02:54 AM


Originally Posted by PhillipM (Post 3876923)
268bhp@9100rpm. Bwaaaarrrppppp.
On a 2.5" exhaust system, size isn't everything...



WHAT!?

searching searching searching...

DarkBrew 02-11-2011 07:04 AM


Originally Posted by rz-jacks (Post 3878087)
it would be interesting if mazda changes they lubrication system so that instead of using the oil from the sump, they would just have a separate oil tank for the OMP. That way you could run a lighter grade synthetic for the internals and use a 2-stroke oil type (burns cleaner) for lubricating the apex seals. sort of like a oil injected 2 stroke engine.

Hello... See post 10 above...

maskedferret 02-11-2011 07:24 AM

If only someone would invent such a thing...

olddragger 02-11-2011 07:57 AM

never any harm in asking questions dude--no one is born knowing.
There is a lot of info "out there" just look it up. Your question is a valid one, it wont work, but you are thinking in the right way.

Beodude 02-11-2011 08:05 AM


Originally Posted by PhillipM;3876923[B
]It'd shear down far too quickly[/B]. You'd be changing it every 100 miles.


Originally Posted by rz-jacks (Post 3878087)
I was hoping someone knowledgeable could jump in and give some info about it

That's your answer right there. It's not meant to cycle through the engine, just get burned. Also, there is an adapter that goes between the OMP and the oil pan. It's called the Sohn adapter. You just need your own bottle, and you can run standard 4 cycle oil through the crankcase, and run 2 cycle through the rotor housings.

9krpmrx8 02-11-2011 09:49 AM


Originally Posted by rz-jacks (Post 3878087)
hahahahahaaha I knew this was gonna end bad.... I was curious about what the differences between the two types of oil where, so I was hoping someone knowledgeable could jump in and give some info about it. too bad so many people can't wait to call someone stupid for being curious about something. its not like I'm suggesting using canola oil..... If you want to see stupidity then you might enjoy something like this: http://www.lancerregister.com/showthread.php?t=224101

it would be interesting if mazda changes they lubrication system so that instead of using the oil from the sump, they would just have a separate oil tank for the OMP. That way you could run a lighter grade synthetic for the internals and use a 2-stroke oil type (burns cleaner) for lubricating the apex seals. sort of like a oil injected 2 stroke engine.


Well maybe if you read instead of posting random bullshit you would not get smart ass replies. You were answered, you just chose not to read at all.

No know one expects you to be knowledgeable right away but we expect you to at least make some type of a valid effort to research.

Beodude 02-11-2011 09:56 AM

There are two or three threads which helped me the most. First was the premix thread. It's super long, but you will get the whole story. Next was the possible failure thread, and that has tooooons of good info. There was another one in there somewhere, but I can't remember what it is.

nycgps 02-11-2011 10:04 AM


Originally Posted by rz-jacks (Post 3878087)
hahahahahaaha I knew this was gonna end bad.... I was curious about what the differences between the two types of oil where, so I was hoping someone knowledgeable could jump in and give some info about it. too bad so many people can't wait to call someone stupid for being curious about something. its not like I'm suggesting using canola oil..... If you want to see stupidity then you might enjoy something like this: http://www.lancerregister.com/showthread.php?t=224101

if you actually spend the time and read or just google the info (in ur case, the 2 stroke use as engine oil bs), you will get your answer in less than 5 minutes.

you got what you deserved, simple.


it would be interesting if mazda changes they lubrication system so that instead of using the oil from the sump, they would just have a separate oil tank for the OMP. That way you could run a lighter grade synthetic for the internals and use a 2-stroke oil type (burns cleaner) for lubricating the apex seals. sort of like a oil injected 2 stroke engine.
same as above.

in case you are too stupid to search, I be nice just this one time, Mazda "knew" that its better to separate them 40 years ago. but the MARKETING department back then said no one will want to buy a car like that. so thats how OMP system was born.

I guess everybody here would agreed to the marketing department. most idiots are stupid/lazy enough NOT to check their oil level, you expect them to be able to tell the difference between 2 stroke/4 cycle engine oil & fill them up ?

Got it now smarty ?

next time do ur homework b4 u make any stupid threads.

> MAO < 02-11-2011 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by rz-jacks (Post 3878087)
too bad so many people can't wait to call someone stupid for being curious about something. its not like I'm suggesting using canola oil

Persevere is diabolical.


Originally Posted by rz-jacks (Post 3878087)
it would be interesting if mazda changes they lubrication system so that instead of using the oil from the sump, they would just have a separate oil tank for the OMP. That way you could run a lighter grade synthetic for the internals and use a 2-stroke oil type (burns cleaner) for lubricating the apex seals. sort of like a oil injected 2 stroke engine.

S O H N

DarkBrew 02-11-2011 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by > MAO < (Post 3878320)
S O H N

Tried telling him twice already... it would seem he's not listening.... :banghead:

PhillipM 02-11-2011 06:26 PM


Originally Posted by Wert4580 (Post 3878093)
WHAT!?

searching searching searching...

0-60 in under 5 seconds too :naughty:

Beodude 02-12-2011 01:50 AM


Originally Posted by DarkBrew (Post 3878530)
Tried telling him twice already... it would seem he's not listening.... :banghead:

Oh man, are you talking about that hot new product nobody has even heard about? I think it's an adapter or something that allows you to run 2 cycle through the rotor housings. It's in early development, so it's everybody's secret!


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