Does removeing the cat void the warranty? please help. i bought the rx8 took it to the dealer b/c the engine light was on and they called me back and said to pick up my mazda it warranty has been voided.. can they do this?

 

The MIL was probably because the ECU was unhappy about the missing cat.
- Your problem.

The engine warranty should still be good, but they are not going to fix an exhaust or emissions problem.

 

Magnossan-Moss Act. I think it is. They have to prove it was the missing cat that threw the CEL. But, it probably was, therefore, yes, they can do that.

 

Most dealerships aren't happy when they see the cat gone. the ones i have had experience with said they void entire warranties when they see the missing cat. The local one here has done it several times. I don't see how they do it. I believe there is a loophole tied to the exhaust that allows then to get away with it. Then again you are violating federal law by removing it so that could give them a way to do it.

I would give them a call and ask then what gives them the right to void all of your warranty. See what they have to say about it.

 

The trick is - don't get caught.
Bolt the cat back in before maintenance & inspections.

 

yes

 

^^^Using this approach keeps you a step ahead of them.

 

Even better trick -- don't remove the cat. Thanks.

 

+1. just keep it on til the warranty runs out then do what you want

 

Well, no. Why do the kids with Asthma and the old folks with Emphysema have to choke so someone can get a couple more horsepower? What is it with people who think that emissions equipment stands between them and contentment?

"Removing cat void warranty?" Hell yah. Should void license too.

 

Oh boy... another global warming fan.

 

Might wana put the cat back and take it to another dealer. Might work/Might not?

 

Catalytic converters have nothing to do with global warming. They reduce toxic emissions:

Carbon Monoxide (poisonous)
Unburned and partially burned hydrocarbons (cause cancer)
Oxides of Nitrogen (component of smog, aggravates Asthma, causes acid rain)

These poisons are well-understood and, unlike global warming, there aren't people pretending they don't exist.

 

IMHO, everyone who removes their cat is pretending they don't exist...or don't matter, which is nearly the same thing.

Ken

 

Anyone who thinks they can just remove the CAT, go to a classic car show where they drive around and smell the emissions. It brings back memories alright. Leave the CAT installed so we can all breathe easier.

And correct, it has no impact on global warming. Unfortunately, making an impact on CO2 emissions will be much tougher because it is not a by-product of combustion, it is 50% of the combustion process. The other term is water vapor.

CH4 + O2 = CO2 + H2O (yes, this is methane, not gasoline and its not balance - hey, its been 28yrs so cut me some slack)

Mike

 

Oh boy, another air quality doesn't matter fan ...

 

bump

 

ha ha some funny stuff on here

 

wtf? lol !

before I didnt really cared about people going CAT-Less.

but now, after I got my Fc, it "came with" full Racing Beat Full Race exhaust ... aww it smells horrible, it smells so bad that I cant even sit in the car for more than 10 minutes without getting a headache. jesus. now Im got a new magnaflow cat direct fit, and got a used exhaust manifold and everyhing for cheap. need to figure out where to connect the spit air pipe to ... ahh different forum.

Anyway, dont go CAT less. you're killing NYCGPS !

 

Get some tuning done you n00b.

 

It's going to be in your paperwork that you removed the cat... good luck getting any dealer to do anything for you.

 

Yes they can. They don't even like high flow cats so your probably hosed.

What I don't get is how diesel trucks get away with all the black clouds they put out.

 

Not to pile on, but you removed your Cat, you get no help. End of story.

That's what tracks and high flow Cat's are for.

The diesel trucks really bug the shiite outta me too.

 

They're not supposed to. Newer diesel trucks have emission requirements. Even before that, most states had laws against visible smoke. It used to be winked at on the basis of it being just soot. Once you see the soot, though, fuel is being wasted.

On removing the cat... If you do, it violates federal law. The feds rarely come down on individuals, but they do come down hard on shops that remove them. I learned that by googling the topic a bit when this thread (or a similar one) was fresh. If I owned a repair shop, I'd be less than thrilled to have an illegally modified car come in.

Ken

 

I guess cops around here just close their eyes or something cause people around here leave plumes of that black smoke everywhere. The newer dodge truck are usually the culprit.