Removing cat void warranty?
08-20-2007, 01:05 PM
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Removing cat void warranty?
Does removeing the cat void the warranty? please help. i bought the rx8 took it to the dealer b/c the engine light was on and they called me back and said to pick up my mazda it warranty has been voided.. can they do this?
08-20-2007, 01:34 PM
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The MIL was probably because the ECU was unhappy about the missing cat.
- Your problem.
The engine warranty should still be good, but they are not going to fix an exhaust or emissions problem.
- Your problem.
The engine warranty should still be good, but they are not going to fix an exhaust or emissions problem.
08-20-2007, 01:47 PM
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Most dealerships aren't happy when they see the cat gone. the ones i have had experience with said they void entire warranties when they see the missing cat. The local one here has done it several times. I don't see how they do it. I believe there is a loophole tied to the exhaust that allows then to get away with it. Then again you are violating federal law by removing it so that could give them a way to do it.
I would give them a call and ask then what gives them the right to void all of your warranty. See what they have to say about it.
I would give them a call and ask then what gives them the right to void all of your warranty. See what they have to say about it.
08-20-2007, 02:44 PM
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08-21-2007, 04:49 PM
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Well, no. Why do the kids with Asthma and the old folks with Emphysema have to choke so someone can get a couple more horsepower? What is it with people who think that emissions equipment stands between them and contentment?
"Removing cat void warranty?" Hell yah. Should void license too.
08-22-2007, 08:05 AM
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Catalytic converters have nothing to do with global warming. They reduce toxic emissions:
Carbon Monoxide (poisonous)
Unburned and partially burned hydrocarbons (cause cancer)
Oxides of Nitrogen (component of smog, aggravates Asthma, causes acid rain)
These poisons are well-understood and, unlike global warming, there aren't people pretending they don't exist.
Carbon Monoxide (poisonous)
Unburned and partially burned hydrocarbons (cause cancer)
Oxides of Nitrogen (component of smog, aggravates Asthma, causes acid rain)
These poisons are well-understood and, unlike global warming, there aren't people pretending they don't exist.
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08-22-2007, 09:23 AM
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08-22-2007, 03:26 PM
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Anyone who thinks they can just remove the CAT, go to a classic car show where they drive around and smell the emissions. It brings back memories alright. Leave the CAT installed so we can all breathe easier.
And correct, it has no impact on global warming. Unfortunately, making an impact on CO2 emissions will be much tougher because it is not a by-product of combustion, it is 50% of the combustion process. The other term is water vapor.
CH4 + O2 = CO2 + H2O (yes, this is methane, not gasoline and its not balance - hey, its been 28yrs so cut me some slack)
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And correct, it has no impact on global warming. Unfortunately, making an impact on CO2 emissions will be much tougher because it is not a by-product of combustion, it is 50% of the combustion process. The other term is water vapor.
CH4 + O2 = CO2 + H2O (yes, this is methane, not gasoline and its not balance - hey, its been 28yrs so cut me some slack)
Mike
07-21-2009, 11:31 PM
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wtf? lol !
before I didnt really cared about people going CAT-Less.
but now, after I got my Fc, it "came with" full Racing Beat Full Race exhaust ... aww it smells horrible, it smells so bad that I cant even sit in the car for more than 10 minutes without getting a headache. jesus. now Im got a new magnaflow cat direct fit, and got a used exhaust manifold and everyhing for cheap. need to figure out where to connect the spit air pipe to ... ahh different forum.
Anyway, dont go CAT less. you're killing NYCGPS !
before I didnt really cared about people going CAT-Less.
but now, after I got my Fc, it "came with" full Racing Beat Full Race exhaust ... aww it smells horrible, it smells so bad that I cant even sit in the car for more than 10 minutes without getting a headache. jesus. now Im got a new magnaflow cat direct fit, and got a used exhaust manifold and everyhing for cheap. need to figure out where to connect the spit air pipe to ... ahh different forum.
Anyway, dont go CAT less. you're killing NYCGPS !
07-22-2009, 03:09 PM
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On removing the cat... If you do, it violates federal law. The feds rarely come down on individuals, but they do come down hard on shops that remove them. I learned that by googling the topic a bit when this thread (or a similar one) was fresh. If I owned a repair shop, I'd be less than thrilled to have an illegally modified car come in.
Ken