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Old 02-03-2008, 07:06 PM
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i actually knew everything above cuz i have been reading a lot from this forum but i just wanted everyone to prove redline isnt a bad thing for rx8 again, no matter which gear did i use, and i also redline my car a lot. but yes, it was my first flushing CEL so i got a bit scared. Thanks everyone here to give me the idea that the CEL was actually about.

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Red line a day keeps the carbon away............
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Originally Posted by nycgps
Mazda choose 9000 because power is dropping so fast that theres no point in revving further. Please get your facts straight before answering.
So THAT'S the ONLY reason Mazda chose 9000... I see.. It couldn't possibly also be because building a drivetrain to take much more than that starts costing silly money.

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Are we comparing apples to oranges here or comparing bees to cows ?
Dunno... why don't you ask msenzo? I was merely replying to his post in the same manner, addressing his examples like for like. Last I heard, that's considered 'polite'.

If I were making those statements out of the blue, they would have little to stand on. But making them in response to someone else's points serves the more specific purpose of countering specific misconceptions. Why do you read so much into them as to regard them as a complete argument?
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its weird....when i was driving today, just about 1 hour ago, i hit around 8000rpm twice but CEL didnt show up again like that. the reason why i only hit up to 8k is that there were two cars at the front of me.
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Originally Posted by Socket7
So in summery.

The engine is designed to handle more then 9000 RPM.

The Transmission is designed to handle around 9000 RPM, but probably not all day long (and why would you do that? even when racing.)

Redline is A-OK!
that pretty much sums it up
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Originally Posted by philsbluerx8
its weird....when i was driving today, just about 1 hour ago, i hit around 8000rpm twice but CEL didnt show up again like that. the reason why i only hit up to 8k is that there were two cars at the front of me.
Like I said.

Red line a day keeps the carbon away............
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Like the sig!
haha, thanks! perfectly sums up our car i think.

disclaimer: i just woke up one day and *thought* of that quote; i felt like an articulate genius! if i subconsciously took if from someone or somewhere, sorry - i'd give you props if i knew
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Originally Posted by nycgps
Mazda choose 9000 because power is dropping so fast that theres no point in revving further. Please get your facts straight before answering.

But it also matters where you fall in the powerband *after* you shift. There's a YouTube video of an RX-8 driver at Laguna Seca, iirc, and he was taking it to 9200 rpm or so -- nearly fuel cutoff point, at every shift.
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Exclamation need help again

hey guys, since last time the blinking CEL, my car never had any blinking CEL anymore even though i drove it close to redline. But tonight, when i have come back 2 hours already, i started my cuz i was gonna go to walmart where is just right by my condo; the coolant temperature wasnt below "cold" and it was at underground heated parking, so its not a cold start; after about 2 minutes, my check engine light came on again but not flushing. it just stays there solidly. i thought that was probably a bad cat, i didnt worry that much but after 2 minutes again, my Power steering wheel light came on; i turned off my car when it was already warmed up by reving it a bit; when i turned it on again, power steering wheel light went off but the check engine light was still on; got no clue what had happened to me. weird stuff, ghost........and bad luck
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Originally Posted by Rumboo
So THAT'S the ONLY reason Mazda chose 9000... I see.. It couldn't possibly also be because building a drivetrain to take much more than that starts costing silly money.
sorry drivetrain is not the main cause, to get more power they probably have to redesign the engine, most important is the intake part. cuz when your engine is running out of breathe how do you get more power ?

Dunno... why don't you ask msenzo? I was merely replying to his post in the same manner, addressing his examples like for like. Last I heard, that's considered 'polite'.

If I were making those statements out of the blue, they would have little to stand on. But making them in response to someone else's points serves the more specific purpose of countering specific misconceptions. Why do you read so much into them as to regard them as a complete argument?
but you were comparing apples to cows, wasnt it ?

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But it also matters where you fall in the powerband *after* you shift. There's a YouTube video of an RX-8 driver at Laguna Seca, iirc, and he was taking it to 9200 rpm or so -- nearly fuel cutoff point, at every shift.
The Tach we're seeing is a bit off, by about 300 rpm in the high rpm area. when you see 9000 its actually running around 8700 only. when you shift at 9300 thats the *real* 9000 rpm and fuel cut will happen. if you have RB flash, the fuel cut off happen when the tach saids 9500 something rpm. scary huh ?

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Originally Posted by philsbluerx8
hey guys, since last time the blinking CEL, my car never had any blinking CEL anymore even though i drove it close to redline. But tonight, when i have come back 2 hours already, i started my cuz i was gonna go to walmart where is just right by my condo; the coolant temperature wasnt below "cold" and it was at underground heated parking, so its not a cold start; after about 2 minutes, my check engine light came on again but not flushing. it just stays there solidly. i thought that was probably a bad cat, i didnt worry that much but after 2 minutes again, my Power steering wheel light came on; i turned off my car when it was already warmed up by reving it a bit; when i turned it on again, power steering wheel light went off but the check engine light was still on; got no clue what had happened to me. weird stuff, ghost........and bad luck
Power Steering light possible cause : Open the hood, look at your overflow tank hose, check and see if theres any signs of *coolant* came out. the *default* direction goes to your power steering connector. and will create problem in the long run. To solve it either you pull the connector and clean it with some electric safe spray, or cut the wire and solder it yourself. oh also if thats the case, you might want to get a hose from ur local auto shop and reroute the hose to somewhere else.
Or it could be your power Steering motor is failing, unlikely tho.

Find out what the CEL is, pull the code At autozone or something. or just buy some pocket scanner. its very helpful
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Originally Posted by nycgps
Power Steering light possible cause : Open the hood, look at your overflow tank hose, check and see if theres any signs of *coolant* came out. the *default* direction goes to your power steering connector. and will create problem in the long run. To solve it either you pull the connector and clean it with some electric safe spray, or cut the wire and solder it yourself. oh also if thats the case, you might want to get a hose from ur local auto shop and reroute the hose to somewhere else.
Or it could be your power Steering motor is failing, unlikely tho.

Find out what the CEL is, pull the code At autozone or something. or just buy some pocket scanner. its very helpful
.....its something strange to me. since last time when the CEL was blinking, i have gone to mazda to make appointment to check it out but its on next Monday. Should i be worried a lot and not drive until next monday. the driver manual says do not drive at high speed if your CEL remains on. FOr cleaning the power steering connector, can i used the one which i used to clean MAF sensor? its called MAF sensor cleaner...
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and the light came on when i was warming the car at idle.
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Originally Posted by philsbluerx8
.....its something strange to me. since last time when the CEL was blinking, i have gone to mazda to make appointment to check it out but its on next Monday. Should i be worried a lot and not drive until next monday. the driver manual says do not drive at high speed if your CEL remains on. FOr cleaning the power steering connector, can i used the one which i used to clean MAF sensor? its called MAF sensor cleaner...
IF your gas cap is loose, the CEL will turn on, if its not properly sealed, it will turn CEL on.

It depends on what the CEL is, thats why a pocket scanner is a must, if u love ur car that is. If you dont have to drive ur car, you can leave it till the day u walk into your dealership. Just in case the CEL reset itself if it does not happen again.

Originally Posted by philsbluerx8
and the light came on when i was warming the car at idle.
It could be a lot of things, I get CEL for the first 1-2 drive cycle after I pull and reconnect my battery. no big deal.

Go out and buy a pocket scanner, get one online, it doesnt cost a lot, and should last the life of ur car (or more, as long as its OBDII and CAN bus)
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when can i get those from?
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Originally Posted by philsbluerx8
when can i get those from?
I just got one off ebay last week. Search for "OBD2, OBDII, CAN, Scanner, Reader" in the automotive section.

Mine was a CAN + OBD2 with detailed MIL information display for 100$, but you can get some basic OBD2 (no scan) for 50$ or less. If you try to get one in a "brick and mortar" store, they're going for triple that price.

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In case you havent check ur PM, here

http://www.amazon.com/Actron-CP9125-...2343469&sr=8-1

Not sure how much it would cost to ship to Canada. but shouldnt be that bad.
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Originally Posted by nycgps
In case you havent check ur PM, here

http://www.amazon.com/Actron-CP9125-...2343469&sr=8-1

Not sure how much it would cost to ship to Canada. but shouldnt be that bad.

That odb2 scanner makes no mention of being CAN capable. It's CAN that you need to look for, not odb2.

Personally, I like the ScanGauge2:

http://www.scangauge.com/
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Originally Posted by mysql101
That odb2 scanner makes no mention of being CAN capable. It's CAN that you need to look for, not odb2.

Personally, I like the ScanGauge2:

http://www.scangauge.com/
I recommend it because I have it.

its small, handy, cheap, and it works
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Thanks Everyone Here!!!!really Healpful!!!
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well. a weird thing happened this morning again. remember i said i had a CEL. yes, i have had this for 2 days. But this morning, when a girl sat in it, the light was just off. i was so happy the light was off. but how could it happen?
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Originally Posted by philsbluerx8
well. a weird thing happened this morning again. remember i said i had a CEL. yes, i have had this for 2 days. But this morning, when a girl sat in it, the light was just off. i was so happy the light was off. but how could it happen?
That means its probably your gas cap.

Check that sucker see if its loose, or you might need a new one if its not sealing properly
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i read the code for my engine light already which is P2070 SSV STUCK OPEN on 2 CCM. Sounds like the problem i had before but i thought they have already fixed it. since it only showed up once, does it really matter? and the solid engine light wasnt really stored into PCM. whats the problem then?
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Originally Posted by philsbluerx8
i read the code for my engine light already which is P2070 SSV STUCK OPEN on 2 CCM. Sounds like the problem i had before but i thought they have already fixed it. since it only showed up once, does it really matter? and the solid engine light wasnt really stored into PCM. whats the problem then?
you will not be able to detect this code until your engine reach the 6000~6250 rpm range.

Drive hard around that RPM range for couple of days with strong injector cleaner to see if you can unstuck your SSV.
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Originally Posted by nycgps
you will not be able to detect this code until your engine reach the 6000~6250 rpm range.

Drive hard around that RPM range for couple of days with strong injector cleaner to see if you can unstuck your SSV.
+1... take this one seriously, it probably means you're having carbon build-up because the car doesn't get enough action.


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