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Old Aug 15, 2010 | 11:03 AM
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Great Idea.



Yes, and thanks to you Dannobre, I found great place locally called Taylor hose that sells JIC fittings and Push Loc hose, and they can get just about everything else too. They dropped their prices significantly when I showed them how much I could save by buying online so I just gave them the business even though it was a bit more.
Cool! Saves me from having to crossthread them in gooped up with LockTite! I'm running out of messing with the car time (until towards the end of September), so maybe one of u's could post up a DIY or make a new thread after you do the swap. Possibly some of the variations in posted op readings come from having differing adapter plates and potentially different oil filters right next to the sensors.
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Old Aug 15, 2010 | 12:32 PM
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^ so who has a direct link to an adapter fitting this JIC style to one like the RB adapter uses?
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Old Aug 15, 2010 | 01:42 PM
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Old Aug 15, 2010 | 02:19 PM
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^ well if I wanted to fit an NPT style fitting (from say a sending unit that would typically fit on the RB sandwich style oil filter adapter) to this BSP one on the rear housing. This would eliminating the idiot light sending unit, instead just allow installing a std pressure sending unit there, if that is possible. Sorry I'm not so familiar with the various fitting terminology.
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Old Aug 15, 2010 | 03:14 PM
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You can buy adapters from NPT to BSP...or use a BSP tap to change the NPT fitting...but often there isn't enough stub sticking out for this to work

I bought a street tee...with an BSP nipple, and 2 NPT females....

There are lots of options..but space is a limiting factor down there

Another thing that works is to drill a hole in the banjo bolt for the oil supply line...and tap in a NPT thread....just be sure your fitting doesn't go in too far and restrict oil flow..that works well.....if you have access to a lathe it is a lot easier
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Old Aug 16, 2010 | 03:21 AM
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I'm not pretty sure how this mod is gonna help against a properly modified oil pressure regulator. With the one I got from Mazmart i see oil constant oil pressures above 6.5\7 bars, a tad less when cruising but still around that mark.
Anyway the cooling capacity of the stock oil radiators is enough for a street driven\track day NA car even during summer days provided that you have the wheel wells cut open and the pressure regulator installed.
With those mods, Mazmart's water pump and an emptied engine bay i keep forgetting to do cool down laps so i'm not really sure how an oil cooler conversion could change my situation!
Hi Giorgio!
I thoughjt the same, before the single cooler mod. I thought the regulator's modding will be sacrificing, but at low-mid-high rpms I did not get enough oil pressure with warm 30w oil, if I see the Mazda reference pressure, or the old 10PSI/1000rpm rule. Earlier I red 9krpmrx8's single cooler mod thread, and it was great that he got higher pressure only by the "simplier" oil cooling system.

So I did the "same". Now the pressure is about 10PSI higher at the same rpm, than before with the warm (hot) 0w-30 oil, only by the less restrictive single oil cooling system. The reason for the higher pressure at low rpm could be that the hot 30w is relatively thin, so a part of the oil flow can find way (to drain) between the regulator's piston and cylinder wall (with partly opened regulators). With the less restrictive system this draining back effect is smaller. A thicker oil can decreases this loss too, but as we know it decreases the amount of oil flow too.

So I get higher pressure (more oil) with thinner oil.

Otherwise for the cooler placing scepticals. The oil temps are lower and more stable with this radiator-condenser-oil cooler sandwich vs. factory 2 OC's system. There are much higher and well directed air flow in the middle, than on the two sides. And more good things, when the vents of the radiator are working, its cool the oil cooler too., not like in the factory place.

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Old Aug 16, 2010 | 03:57 AM
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I guess that it could make sense
The fact is that I really have no cooling problems with my oil coolers as my oil temps never exceed 95° even at the track so i see no need for this kind of modification in my application!
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Old Aug 16, 2010 | 09:54 AM
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Dannobre, do you know what size bsp thread the factory sending unit is? I wonder if all oil pressure sending units have the same thread size. I have one off of a Jeep, I am just wondering if I can take that with me to the hose place to see if they can get that adapter.
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Old Aug 16, 2010 | 11:15 AM
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Good job you mentioned that, just switching to an '09 engine and forgot we'll need a higher pressure sender and guage, doh!
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Old Aug 16, 2010 | 11:16 AM
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Good job you mentioned that, just switching to an '09 engine and forgot we'll need a higher pressure sender and guage, doh!
Cool, what are you using for engine management?
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Old Aug 16, 2010 | 03:19 PM
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We're on a DTA S80 so makes no difference to us really.
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Old Aug 17, 2010 | 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by PhillipM
We're on a DTA S80 so makes no difference to us really.
Please give us pressure datas when you have the new gauge !
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Old Aug 17, 2010 | 04:53 PM
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Will do, still modifying the oils lines and chassis to get the new sump in!
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Old Sep 20, 2010 | 05:27 PM
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Waiting on a new throttle pot, but it idles at about 67psi (0w30)
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Old Sep 20, 2010 | 05:32 PM
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Details please.
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Old Sep 22, 2010 | 01:24 PM
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Details on what?
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Old Sep 22, 2010 | 01:27 PM
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Details on what?

On your latest build Or did I miss something?
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Old Sep 22, 2010 | 02:26 PM
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Nah, just lost compression on the old S1 engine - we had a misfire from knackered leads and pushed the car to finish the event (we were leading our class so thought it was worth it).
Unfortunately when we got it home and it had cooled down it struggled to start and was about 100bhp down on power - had cracked a side seal with the misfires.
Managed to source an S2 engine that was almost brand new, and spent the last month changing all the frame/oil system/electrics/trigger wheel/pulleys, etc, and swapping old parts over to get it to fit.
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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 04:50 PM
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Right, peak oil pressure is 142.6psi when the oil is warm, it'll hit about 154psi on rapid acceleration for the briefest moment, but I think it's just the delay from the valves cracking open.
Oh, and the new engine sings like a choir!
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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 04:55 PM
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So what are you using for engine management?
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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 05:16 PM
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Still on our DTA S80 that we ran on the S1 engine, just altered some of the mapping settings.

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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by PhillipM
Still on our DTA S80 that we ran on the S1 engine, just altered some of the mapping settings.

I really want to go with a S2 engine in my S1
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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 05:38 PM
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The buggy needed a lot more alterations to fit it than we expected!
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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 05:49 PM
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The buggy needed a lot more alterations to fit it than we expected!
Yeah I have a thread about it, there are many things that would have to be addressed and many things that may or may not work with the S2 renny. I would just love to do it so I could build my 8 NA so that it would last a long time. I'm only at 20k on the mazda rebuild and I have my doubts already. I will be on the dyno after my injectors are serviced and we will see just how healthy my engine is.
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 04:20 AM
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Originally Posted by PhillipM
Right, peak oil pressure is 142.6psi when the oil is warm, it'll hit about 154psi on rapid acceleration for the briefest moment, but I think it's just the delay from the valves cracking open.
Oh, and the new engine sings like a choir!
Nice. So the much higher oil pressure of the S2 Renesis is verified.
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