Oil in intake
05-15-2010, 08:03 AM
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Oil in intake
So I just took out the baffles in the intake per the DIY writeup and I noticed that my air filter was soaked in what appeared to be engine oil. The whole filter was not soaked but the part directly beneath the the intake ducting was. So then I disconnected the air box from the intake tubing leading the manifold and noticed a fair amount of standing oil. Is this normal? I did do a search but found nothing of interest.
05-15-2010, 08:13 AM
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I heard of this ..... will try and find threads for you....
I'm not sure how serious it is, if at all.....
I can tell you this, my 05 gets hardly any oil in the intake (a little) but not like what you are talking about.
I could only speculate that it isn't good, however loads of people have oil catch cans so wtf do I know.
I'm not sure how serious it is, if at all.....
I can tell you this, my 05 gets hardly any oil in the intake (a little) but not like what you are talking about.
I could only speculate that it isn't good, however loads of people have oil catch cans so wtf do I know.
05-15-2010, 08:24 AM
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The best part is that I just had the car at a dealer for a stalling problem and paid them an arm and a leg for a diagnostic which of course turned up inconclusive. I bet the tech didnt do anything but drive my car.
Ill be filing a complaint with Mazda NA.
Ill be filing a complaint with Mazda NA.
05-15-2010, 08:45 AM
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This is the Mazda dealership where I live .... they just received the EPIC FAIL award from Mazda NA
https://www.rx8club.com/canada-forum-35/orangvile-mazda-dealership-charged-196812/
05-15-2010, 09:15 AM
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uggh...
Medman- Oil in the intake is a COMMON problem for early RX-8s . The original PCV set up(read- none) allowed oil to travel up the accordion tube to the airfilter and MAF. any one pouring oil in the top without a funnel or overfilling the oil caused this. Mazda made a running change along the way to a new PCV set up to correct the issue. You can get the bits all in one kit at the dealer. Mazmart or Finishline performance can probably get you a better price.
you're looking for TSB #01-050/06
part number for the new ventilation kit is N3Y1-13-S80A
Medman- Oil in the intake is a COMMON problem for early RX-8s . The original PCV set up(read- none) allowed oil to travel up the accordion tube to the airfilter and MAF. any one pouring oil in the top without a funnel or overfilling the oil caused this. Mazda made a running change along the way to a new PCV set up to correct the issue. You can get the bits all in one kit at the dealer. Mazmart or Finishline performance can probably get you a better price.
you're looking for TSB #01-050/06
part number for the new ventilation kit is N3Y1-13-S80A
05-15-2010, 09:30 AM
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uggh...
Medman- Oil in the intake is a COMMON problem for early RX-8s . The original PCV set up(read- none) allowed oil to travel up the accordion tube to the airfilter and MAF. any one pouring oil in the top without a funnel or overfilling the oil caused this. Mazda made a running change along the way to a new PCV set up to correct the issue. You can get the bits all in one kit at the dealer. Mazmart or Finishline performance can probably get you a better price.
you're looking for TSB #01-050/06
part number for the new ventilation kit is N3Y1-13-S80A
Medman- Oil in the intake is a COMMON problem for early RX-8s . The original PCV set up(read- none) allowed oil to travel up the accordion tube to the airfilter and MAF. any one pouring oil in the top without a funnel or overfilling the oil caused this. Mazda made a running change along the way to a new PCV set up to correct the issue. You can get the bits all in one kit at the dealer. Mazmart or Finishline performance can probably get you a better price.
you're looking for TSB #01-050/06
part number for the new ventilation kit is N3Y1-13-S80A
The worst part was that the dealer specifically told me that the air filter was not fouled and did not need to be replaced, I even have this in writing. That was on thursday, I have not added oil or had an oil change since before going to the dealer (a week or 2 before). So he either flat out lied to me or did a shoddy job checking out my car. Either way they charged me for a diagnostic which was not performed correctly if at all.
05-15-2010, 09:33 AM
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uggh...
Medman- Oil in the intake is a COMMON problem for early RX-8s . The original PCV set up(read- none) allowed oil to travel up the accordion tube to the airfilter and MAF. any one pouring oil in the top without a funnel or overfilling the oil caused this. Mazda made a running change along the way to a new PCV set up to correct the issue. You can get the bits all in one kit at the dealer. Mazmart or Finishline performance can probably get you a better price.
you're looking for TSB #01-050/06
part number for the new ventilation kit is N3Y1-13-S80A
Medman- Oil in the intake is a COMMON problem for early RX-8s . The original PCV set up(read- none) allowed oil to travel up the accordion tube to the airfilter and MAF. any one pouring oil in the top without a funnel or overfilling the oil caused this. Mazda made a running change along the way to a new PCV set up to correct the issue. You can get the bits all in one kit at the dealer. Mazmart or Finishline performance can probably get you a better price.
you're looking for TSB #01-050/06
part number for the new ventilation kit is N3Y1-13-S80A
However you explanation makes perfect sense and I didn't know Mazda had a TSB out for it..... (I guess the TSB shoots me down, must be common enough to have a TSB)
What are your thoughts on getting a catch can if you are not having any issues with Oil in the intake ... don't bother?
Last edited by wcs; 05-15-2010 at 09:36 AM. Reason: added thought
05-15-2010, 09:40 AM
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It was fairly common in 04 and 05 models till they redid the IM plumbing...Mine was replaced...
What color is the oil? If it is clean...they likely filled it too fast and it overflowed into the intake
If it is dark...the breather likely puked it up and that is more of a problem
Sometimes the blowby from crappy side seals leads to this...and a Zoom Zoom treatment might help clear it up
What color is the oil? If it is clean...they likely filled it too fast and it overflowed into the intake
If it is dark...the breather likely puked it up and that is more of a problem
Sometimes the blowby from crappy side seals leads to this...and a Zoom Zoom treatment might help clear it up
05-15-2010, 09:40 AM
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It was fairly common in 04 and 05 models till they redid the IM plumbing...Mine was replaced...
What color is the oil? If it is clean...they likely filled it too fast and it overflowed into the intake
If it is dark...the breather likely puked it up and that is more of a problem
Sometimes the blowby from crappy side seals leads to this...and a Zoom Zoom treatment might help clear it up
What color is the oil? If it is clean...they likely filled it too fast and it overflowed into the intake
If it is dark...the breather likely puked it up and that is more of a problem
Sometimes the blowby from crappy side seals leads to this...and a Zoom Zoom treatment might help clear it up
05-15-2010, 09:44 AM
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then if you don't think that's enough threads to call it common then do a search for oil in the intake over the whole forum.
then if you think that still isn't enough instances realize that Mazda changed/added ventilation for the 2006 model year and created a kit to update the 2004 and 2005 cars and issued the TSB specifically to alleviate this issue and the milky dipstick issue.
Also note that I was talking about the kit and the TSB before they were announced because of being included in some QMD email strings.
Its as common as water in the the tail lights. As common as failing CATs.
05-15-2010, 09:45 AM
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I've got an 05 and most of the dudes in our local RX8 group have 04-06's
I've not heard one person mention a problem with oil in the intake.... guess we are lucky.
That all being said .. I'm going to make sure I use a funnel from now on and seriously considering the SeaFoam .... perhaps just for fun.
I've not heard one person mention a problem with oil in the intake.... guess we are lucky.
That all being said .. I'm going to make sure I use a funnel from now on and seriously considering the SeaFoam .... perhaps just for fun.
05-15-2010, 09:49 AM
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you can disagree all you want but to check the veracity of my statement you need to do nothing else but search my posts for pcv or oil in the intake.
Then if you don't think that's enough threads to call it common then do a search for oil in the intake over the whole forum.
Then if you think that still isn't enough instances realize that mazda changed/added ventilation for the 2006 model year and created a kit to update the 2004 and 2005 cars and issued the tsb specifically to alleviate this issue and the milky dipstick issue.
Also note that i was talking about the kit and the tsb before they were announced because of being included in some qmd email strings.
Its as common as water in the the tail lights. As common as failing cats.
Then if you don't think that's enough threads to call it common then do a search for oil in the intake over the whole forum.
Then if you think that still isn't enough instances realize that mazda changed/added ventilation for the 2006 model year and created a kit to update the 2004 and 2005 cars and issued the tsb specifically to alleviate this issue and the milky dipstick issue.
Also note that i was talking about the kit and the tsb before they were announced because of being included in some qmd email strings.
Its as common as water in the the tail lights. As common as failing cats.
lol
05-15-2010, 09:50 AM
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Did you but the car new? Might have been fixed before you got it....
I was one of the first Canadians to get it done...after months of bitching they got me a kit from the States
Part of the power of the forum really....There are area specific recalls done...and often the right application of pressure will get them to do them in an area not originally specified
The oil cooler line issue would be one I'd bitch about in the NE US .....they have a recall for it in Canada
I was one of the first Canadians to get it done...after months of bitching they got me a kit from the States
Part of the power of the forum really....There are area specific recalls done...and often the right application of pressure will get them to do them in an area not originally specified
The oil cooler line issue would be one I'd bitch about in the NE US .....they have a recall for it in Canada
