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Old Apr 10, 2011 | 07:00 PM
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Oil bottle seal poured in with oil, help!

First, I take full responsibility for being stupid.

The bottle seal came off the bottle and got poured into the engine with the oil. Did it go straight to the sump? I'm hoping that I can drain the oil, remove the pan, and find it there... sound right?
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Old Apr 10, 2011 | 07:36 PM
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which seal? you mean the thin aluminum cover that you need to poke at or do you mean the plastic ring?
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Old Apr 10, 2011 | 07:50 PM
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I would be removing the oil pan.
Hoping that it made it all the way to the pan and didn't get hung up somewhere.
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Old Apr 10, 2011 | 10:12 PM
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Stupid mistake. Next time, take it off first, then you can pour it.
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Old Apr 10, 2011 | 11:28 PM
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How much oil did you dump in after the seal fell in?...I could easily still be in the passage between the filler neck and where it goes into the engine...

I would pull the UIM and have a look in the oil passage before I pulled the pan..it is a lot easier
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Old Apr 11, 2011 | 12:06 AM
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You should be using a funnel with a thin neck to avoid such problems
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Old Apr 11, 2011 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by dannobre
How much oil did you dump in after the seal fell in?...I could easily still be in the passage between the filler neck and where it goes into the engine...

I would pull the UIM and have a look in the oil passage before I pulled the pan..it is a lot easier
Oh sure if you want to do things the easy way, fine.
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Old Apr 16, 2011 | 08:54 AM
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Its most likely in the pan and it would be a perfect size to plug up the oil pickup tube.

I would not even start that thing or move it. If you need help pulling the pan you can PM me.
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Old Apr 16, 2011 | 08:59 AM
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This simply reminds me to ALWAYS use my funnel!!!!!!

Suck................good luck............think I would be pulling the pan with fingers crossed.
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Old Apr 16, 2011 | 09:09 AM
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I would like to know the ending to this story.

I hope OP posts back an update
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Old Apr 16, 2011 | 04:50 PM
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^ Maybe, he's getting a new engine because of his stupid mistake
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Old Apr 16, 2011 | 06:08 PM
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^You of all people criticizing for other peoples' stupid mistakes...
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Old Apr 16, 2011 | 06:18 PM
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Yeah at least he made a legitimate mistake. You didn't accidently cut your springs!
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Old Apr 16, 2011 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by terch1
Yeah at least he made a legitimate mistake. You didn't accidently cut your springs!


As to the op i agree on checking the oil fill if you did not pour a lot more through. Life would be easy to find in there. If not defiently pull the pan and find it. I could see it clogging or catching somewhere bad and causing big issues.

Either way chalk this up as a lesson learned and move on.

If you do pull the pan make sure you clean the mounting points good and use permatex grey if your in a hurry or super black if you can do without for a day to set.

Good luck
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Old Apr 18, 2011 | 04:17 AM
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I should probably mention that the Idemitsu bottles can have a similar issue. There is a seal bonded to the bottle cap, and occasionally it will come off. I've almost poured the seal in my gas tank a couple of times, but fortunately noticed it in time. Check the cap seal each time you open the bottle (or just peel it off completely right away).
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Old Apr 18, 2011 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by PeteInLongBeach
(or just peel it off completely right away).
Yea that.
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Old Apr 18, 2011 | 07:28 PM
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Hey guys, thanks for all of your replys and constructive?.. criticism. LOL.

Ok, so I solved the problem the day after my mistake, here's how it went down...

Just so you know, I never started the engine until the problem was solved.

So what I did first, is I pulled the oil pan, thinking that the seal had made it's way there. However, after pulling the pan and inspecting it, I did not find the seal anywhere in it. So then, because I was actually considering driving the car the next day, I reinstalled the pan to the motor. Then I talked to my buddy, pro formula mazda race car mechanic, and learned about the oil pickup lines and how they could become potentially blocked... not good. The next morning, a day after the mistake happened, I pulled the upper intake manifold and seperated the oil filler neck at the motor block seam... THERE IT WAS!!! The seal was barely hanging on to a very slight ledge at the seam of the filler neck and motor. So what did I do next??.. I got some handy safety wire, bent it about some, and began to maneuver it ever-so-gently underneath the seal to flick it outta there. Just as the seal was about to be lifted up and outta there, the little bastard slipped back and fell down the oil chute and INTO THE PAN!! Pulled the pan AGAIN, got the seal out and set that bastard on fire!! Put everything back together and she was good to go.

A few lessons learned here, you know what they be.

Hope y'all enjoyed the vision, and thanks again for the help.

Cheers!
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Old Apr 18, 2011 | 11:37 PM
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Good job man!

Trust me its well worth it if you learned from it and got some new skills!
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Old Apr 18, 2011 | 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ckmackey
First, I take full responsibility for being stupid.
I suppose this qualifies as a DIY job ....
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Old Apr 19, 2011 | 11:39 AM
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Congrats I guess lol
Thanks for the update
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Old Apr 19, 2011 | 11:45 AM
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Geesh, what a clusterf@#k.
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Old Apr 19, 2011 | 03:48 PM
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Doesn't the oil pick up tube have a mesh cover? Much like this, http://www.atkinsrotary.com/images/s...871-14-160.jpg

I think some people might be over-reacting.
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Old Apr 19, 2011 | 04:05 PM
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Op good to hear that everything worked out.
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Old Apr 19, 2011 | 04:09 PM
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Old Apr 19, 2011 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by SleepeR1st
Doesn't the oil pick up tube have a mesh cover? Much like this, http://www.atkinsrotary.com/images/s...871-14-160.jpg

I think some people might be over-reacting.

Yes, not sure but that piece could melt completely though and possible clog the screen. Either way it's not a good idea to leave it in there.
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