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ckmackey 04-10-2011 07:00 PM

Oil bottle seal poured in with oil, help!
 
First, I take full responsibility for being stupid.

The bottle seal came off the bottle and got poured into the engine with the oil. Did it go straight to the sump? I'm hoping that I can drain the oil, remove the pan, and find it there... sound right?

paimon.soror 04-10-2011 07:36 PM

which seal? you mean the thin aluminum cover that you need to poke at or do you mean the plastic ring?

wcs 04-10-2011 07:50 PM

I would be removing the oil pan.
Hoping that it made it all the way to the pan and didn't get hung up somewhere.

monchie 04-10-2011 10:12 PM

Stupid mistake. Next time, take it off first, then you can pour it.

dannobre 04-10-2011 11:28 PM

How much oil did you dump in after the seal fell in?...I could easily still be in the passage between the filler neck and where it goes into the engine...

I would pull the UIM and have a look in the oil passage before I pulled the pan..it is a lot easier :)

RX8Soldier 04-11-2011 12:06 AM

You should be using a funnel with a thin neck to avoid such problems

wcs 04-11-2011 07:20 AM


Originally Posted by dannobre (Post 3941387)
How much oil did you dump in after the seal fell in?...I could easily still be in the passage between the filler neck and where it goes into the engine...

I would pull the UIM and have a look in the oil passage before I pulled the pan..it is a lot easier :)

Oh sure if you want to do things the easy way, fine.
;)

shadycrew31 04-16-2011 08:54 AM

Its most likely in the pan and it would be a perfect size to plug up the oil pickup tube.

I would not even start that thing or move it. If you need help pulling the pan you can PM me.

Mazurfer 04-16-2011 08:59 AM

This simply reminds me to ALWAYS use my funnel!!!!!!

Suck................good luck............think I would be pulling the pan with fingers crossed.

wcs 04-16-2011 09:09 AM

I would like to know the ending to this story.

I hope OP posts back an update

monchie 04-16-2011 04:50 PM

^ Maybe, he's getting a new engine because of his stupid mistake :lol:

RX8Soldier 04-16-2011 06:08 PM

^You of all people criticizing for other peoples' stupid mistakes... :rolleyes:

terch1 04-16-2011 06:18 PM

Yeah at least he made a legitimate mistake. You didn't accidently cut your springs!

bumblebeerx8 04-16-2011 06:24 PM


Originally Posted by terch1 (Post 3948060)
Yeah at least he made a legitimate mistake. You didn't accidently cut your springs!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

As to the op i agree on checking the oil fill if you did not pour a lot more through. Life would be easy to find in there:fingersx:. If not defiently pull the pan and find it. I could see it clogging or catching somewhere bad and causing big issues.

Either way chalk this up as a lesson learned and move on.

If you do pull the pan make sure you clean the mounting points good and use permatex grey if your in a hurry or super black if you can do without for a day to set.

Good luck

PeteInLongBeach 04-18-2011 04:17 AM

I should probably mention that the Idemitsu bottles can have a similar issue. There is a seal bonded to the bottle cap, and occasionally it will come off. I've almost poured the seal in my gas tank a couple of times, but fortunately noticed it in time. Check the cap seal each time you open the bottle (or just peel it off completely right away).

shadycrew31 04-18-2011 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by PeteInLongBeach (Post 3949156)
(or just peel it off completely right away).

Yea that.

ckmackey 04-18-2011 07:28 PM

Hey guys, thanks for all of your replys and constructive?.. criticism. LOL.

Ok, so I solved the problem the day after my mistake, here's how it went down...

Just so you know, I never started the engine until the problem was solved.

So what I did first, is I pulled the oil pan, thinking that the seal had made it's way there. However, after pulling the pan and inspecting it, I did not find the seal anywhere in it. So then, because I was actually considering driving the car the next day, I reinstalled the pan to the motor. Then I talked to my buddy, pro formula mazda race car mechanic, and learned about the oil pickup lines and how they could become potentially blocked... not good. The next morning, a day after the mistake happened, I pulled the upper intake manifold and seperated the oil filler neck at the motor block seam... THERE IT WAS!!!:SHOCKED: The seal was barely hanging on to a very slight ledge at the seam of the filler neck and motor. So what did I do next??.. I got some handy safety wire, bent it about some, and began to maneuver it ever-so-gently underneath the seal to flick it outta there. Just as the seal was about to be lifted up and outta there, the little bastard slipped back and fell down the oil chute and INTO THE PAN!!:crazy::tear: Pulled the pan AGAIN, got the seal out and set that bastard on fire!! Put everything back together and she was good to go.

A few lessons learned here, you know what they be.

Hope y'all enjoyed the vision, and thanks again for the help.

Cheers!:smoker:

shadycrew31 04-18-2011 11:37 PM

Good job man!

Trust me its well worth it if you learned from it and got some new skills!

TeamRX8 04-18-2011 11:54 PM


Originally Posted by ckmackey (Post 3941101)
First, I take full responsibility for being stupid.

I suppose this qualifies as a DIY job ....

wcs 04-19-2011 11:39 AM

Congrats I guess lol
Thanks for the update

9krpmrx8 04-19-2011 11:45 AM

:lol: Geesh, what a clusterf@#k.

SleepeR1st 04-19-2011 03:48 PM

Doesn't the oil pick up tube have a mesh cover? Much like this, http://www.atkinsrotary.com/images/s...871-14-160.jpg

I think some people might be over-reacting.

terch1 04-19-2011 04:05 PM

Op good to hear that everything worked out.

dozer 04-19-2011 04:09 PM

:fruit:

9krpmrx8 04-19-2011 04:11 PM


Originally Posted by SleepeR1st (Post 3951194)
Doesn't the oil pick up tube have a mesh cover? Much like this, http://www.atkinsrotary.com/images/s...871-14-160.jpg

I think some people might be over-reacting.


Yes, not sure but that piece could melt completely though and possible clog the screen. Either way it's not a good idea to leave it in there.


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