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Old Jan 9, 2009 | 09:21 AM
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New clutch - replace original or go w/ performance one ?

Hey I have about 55k miles, bought it with about 20k miles on it and I can tell the clutch is going. I'm wondering, does it make sense to put in a perfomance clutch at this point ? I like to drive it hard. I'm concerned about cost though...anyone know how much to get it replaced with the original either at the dealership (or not) and whether there is a similar priced but much better after market performance clutch to get ? Also whether there is something else to do at the same time as the clutch replacement like maybe a lighter fly wheel ?

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Old Jan 9, 2009 | 09:24 AM
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are you sure it is the clutch and not the clutch pedal and bearing?
I would buy another stock clutch anyway since it is soft on the gearbox and add a better bearing\reinforced clutch pedal to it.
Bad disengagement\engagements often accelerate wear so it's really better to upgrade while you are there
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Old Jan 9, 2009 | 10:27 AM
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or 20-30.000km if you are too aggressive on the pedal
The fact is that even a pedal that is in good shape will have some flex and it will speed clutch's wear and cut the life of the synchros.
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Old Jan 9, 2009 | 11:07 PM
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aftermarket is fine.

just dont get a heavy duty one unless you have the horse power for it. get a clutch that is appropriately rated for the hp you have.
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Old Jan 9, 2009 | 11:23 PM
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/\ agree - std spec is good for std engine
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Old Jan 10, 2009 | 08:27 AM
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aftermarket is fine but u DO NOT need a full race clutch just get the OEM replacement aftermarket clutch......and as u know will save u tons of money and save u even more if u do the work yourselft!
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
The pricing of the Exedy clutches for the RX-8 is a bit strange in that the factory part number costs a little more than the slight "upgrade" Exedy, part number 10803A. Like over $100 more.
This is true. My factory clutch recently went bad (~80k miles) and I replaced it with the Exedy Stage 1 and I've been very happy with it. It was cheaper than OEM and performs great.
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 12:24 AM
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the exedy sage one. is a great replacement.. and the charles hill has it with the much better to bearing..

food for thought..

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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 03:20 AM
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with the much better pilot bearing?

yes, he does.

if/when i change out my clutch/flywheel i will definitely replace my pilot bearing with the BHR one.
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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 11:39 AM
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^ Yes +1 for the BHR heavy duty release bearing. I have it installed and like it. Definitely buy this bearing with whatever clutch Ray suggests.
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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 11:44 AM
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I'm sure it will. My tuner loved it and he is a real ******* with comments.
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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 05:42 PM
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^haha
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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 07:22 PM
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So do you think I should do the fly wheel at the same time ? BTW, service guy at Mazda said don't replace fly wheel with anything other than official Mazda FW because it's specially balanced etc...seemed like crap to me.
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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 07:27 PM
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Yeah that's BS. You can get good aftermarket flywheels for the 8. If you can afford it then yes, I would recommend getting a lightweight one. If you can't spend the extra dough, just make sure that the shop machines your flywheel when they install the new clutch.
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 01:51 PM
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K so I'm not sure I understand...if I get the Exedy Stage 1 I would need to ask the installer to machine it ? for balancing ? Not sure what you meant and what the need would be?

So I'm in for a Exedy Stage 1 clutch plus a BHR release bearing right ? How much are these things ? Anything else they will need...like a kit of some sort ? BTW, is this going to void any warranty for the drivetrain ??

Thanks guys, sweet talking to people who know what their talking about...
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 02:05 PM
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Well machining/resurfacing the flywheel SHOULD be standard practice for any shop, but I would ask them just to be sure. You don't ever want to install a new clutch on a worn flywheel.

The Exedy Stage 1 is a complete kit so you shouldn't need anything else. I don't know what BHR charges, but paid $312 for the kit from Racing Beat. As long as it's all installed properly it won't affect your drivetrain warranty.
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 04:05 PM
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Heh no shipping was an extra $20, but it was still a great deal. If I had known about the BHR bearing I probably would have done that, but I'm still very happy with what I got.
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 01:00 PM
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So you wouldn't need to resurface/machine a NEW fly wheel right ?? Just if you were using the old one that's in there - correct ?
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 01:18 PM
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I went with BHR suggested set up and I love it. It isn't harsh for DD and makes the acceleration much smoother and more improved. I like it a lot better than stock, I would suggest looking at it rather than getting the OEM.
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 01:50 PM
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Hmm, im about tto buy the kit from Charles but now I'm thinking I should check my clutch pedal as well. It feels okay but how do I check for damage to clutch pedal?
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 02:10 PM
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^^ look at NYCGPS's thread about broken clutch pedal. There's a few pics with areas highlighed. It shows you exactly where to look
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 02:16 PM
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Cool, thanks.
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