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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 11:03 PM
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So the moral of the story is ,,,Never assume a wire is Pos. or Neg. by color.
Even on the '8, some ground wires are white and still others are black AND red!

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Nice job jeff, do you think it would matter if you daisy chained the setup rather connecting each point to the battery?
I don't know. Resistance isn't everything. Current load is he other part of the equation. That said, it might work OK.

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Nice pics Jeff and whose 8 is that?
The black one in mine. The yellow is Richard Paul's (AxialFlow).
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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 11:16 PM
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Isn't there something called dielectric (conductive) grease that's put on battery posts that you can apply to bare surfaces, before bolting up connections, to keep the bare parts from oxidizing? Where do you get that?

Dielectric does NOT mean conductive. It means non-conductive, which dielectric grease is.
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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 11:24 PM
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It is non-conductive, but when you slide the connectors together there is metal-to-metal contact and the grease gets displaced but the area around connector is protected from moisture.
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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 11:33 PM
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I wouldnt use it on a ring terminal, like a ground wire however.
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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 11:50 PM
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Jeff, just to be clear, the circle plate up top is zinc? I figured it would be aluminum, or is it zinc coated?
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Old Aug 18, 2006 | 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
It is non-conductive, but when you slide the connectors together there is metal-to-metal contact and the grease gets displaced but the area around connector is protected from moisture.
That is why it should be used sparingly when installing plug wires, right?
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Old Aug 18, 2006 | 01:52 AM
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Nah. Glop it on. It only remains in the areas where there is no metal-to-metal contact.
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Old Aug 19, 2006 | 04:33 PM
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I changed my DIY grounding kit to mimic Jeff's kit (no more daisy chain) everything directed connected to the negative battery terminal, it might be that the ECU is still ajusting after resetting, but it seems to be running rougher at the moment, especially under deceleration. I think it needs a few drive cycles to settle in.

I've got a direct ground for the alternator, engine, coils and chasis.
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Old Aug 19, 2006 | 04:35 PM
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Any pics Brillo?
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Old Aug 19, 2006 | 04:51 PM
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Curious how you did the coil grounds
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Old Aug 19, 2006 | 05:14 PM
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when you look down by the coils, there is a stock plastic shielded tube part of the wiring harness running through it that is connected the coil plate to hold the tube in place. Since it didn't seem to serve an important function, I removed the plastic clip that held the wires to that point on the plate, and used the hole drilled in the plate where the plastic clip was to attach a ground wire with a screw and a nut.

I think MM did the same thing as well. the tube with wires is covering the spot in his pic, so you'd have to dig down there to see what Im talking about.

I get a pic tomorrow.

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Old Aug 19, 2006 | 05:27 PM
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There is an "accessory bracket" for want of a better name on the top of the engine...under the intake manifold at the back of the engine. This is used for a grounding plate for a number of harnesses. I think it is important to ground this back to the battery. There is a bolt near the oil filter..towards the top of the engine that is easy to access to ground this. The coils and the condenser are grounded to this.

I grounded the "B" wires of my coils back to the battery a few days ago as well. A well respected meber of the racing community has said that their coil failures stopped after they began to add extra grounding to the coils. All I can say about this is it seems to have made the idle so much smoother, and I seem to have lost a mid-high range hesitation that I had.
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Old Aug 19, 2006 | 05:31 PM
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That must be the one that is easier to reach from under the car right?

Under the spark plugs?
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Old Aug 19, 2006 | 05:34 PM
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Look behind the oil filter from the drivers side, and a bit forward...you will see a 10mm bolt with some ground wires on it...... thats the plate I was talking about...It is on the top of the engine behind the intake manifold
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Gotcha I have one lower on the engine below the spark plugs I will add that one soon. Thanks dannobre.
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 09:29 AM
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anyone take any more pics of these spots?
and what ever happened to the throttle body?? anybody do that???
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 04:50 PM
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what do u guys think of these?? they're made by feed...



also, did u guys take any pics of that plate u were referring to?
what about the throttle body grounding? anybody???
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Old Oct 29, 2006 | 06:16 AM
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We just got it done, it does seem to give better engine response, and does feel more powerful...

Pics attached, Buddy Club grouding kit with condensers.
Attached Thumbnails my grounding kit results-_dsc0062.jpg   my grounding kit results-_dsc0061.jpg  
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Old Oct 29, 2006 | 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by eTiMaGo
We just got it done, it does seem to give better engine response, and does feel more powerful...

Pics attached, Buddy Club grouding kit with condensers.
Where did u get those ?
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Old Oct 29, 2006 | 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by dgrx8
what do u guys think of these?? they're made by feed...



also, did u guys take any pics of that plate u were referring to?
what about the throttle body grounding? anybody???
Peformance wise, they would do nothing. The ground would reduce EMI, but I don't think that is a problem. If the plastic/silicon cover over the sparkplug wire ever broke down, it would have a very short path to ground and possibly burn up one of the coils.
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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by olddragger
say what you will but after I installed a e bay grounding kit my car does idle smoother and the rpms do not drop when I load up the electrical system. I also discovered that the grounding points on the body were on top of paint.
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Have done a complete grounding kit to my 20B-REW powered Cosmo. Made it myself for around $20. being an electronics tech helps in this case.

Same results. Started easier, idled smoother, reved cleaner etc. Better top end

Very worthy modification

REgards
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 03:09 PM
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can someone please post the grounding spots for the coils & throttle body??
a DIY would be nice on these spots being that they're not usually grounded w/ the majority of the available kits out there...
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 03:18 PM
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Here is a pic I pulled from the Oil change DIY

By the intake manifold next to the oil filter... close to the green and white vacuum check valve there is a metal plate with wires attached that is where the coil packs ground to.


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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 03:27 PM
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ok... thanks a lot!!!
now... has anyone grounded the throttle body?? any suggestions on a good spot???
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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 4 years to Supercharge
By the intake manifold next to the oil filter... close to the green and white vacuum check valve there is a metal plate with wires attached that is where the coil packs ground to.

The coil packs ground to the engine (which is grounded to the chassis), not those 2 tiny wires. Something else in the engine bay is using the metal plate for the coil pack as a ground, thats why they are attached.

BTW, that Buddy Club ground kit is out of control. As a rule, grounds should be as short as possible. Plus, the longer the wire, the more resistance it will give = not good.

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