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Msp16 killed my engine!!?? :(

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Old Mar 1, 2010 | 05:34 PM
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Your throttle body has a problem, and its a problem that spraying tb cleaner can't fix (it has something to do with its sensor inside the TB)

You will 99% need to buy a new TB. which is about 500 bucks.

MSP16 did not kill your engine, its just that stock ECU is good at masking problem (older ECU flash that is)
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Old Mar 1, 2010 | 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by mysql101
the OP's description of the "issue" sounds exactly like a ECU that needs to relearn the fuel trims.

You'll need to drive it for a few days and get a few drive cycles under your belt. It will function normally after that.

Alternatively, you can get the cobb accessport and get a custom map that has the correct fuel trims so that even when it's reset, your car drives normally right away.
OMG!

The volkswagon owner got it correct.

IT's the ECU re-learning. Car always acts like this after a flash or clearing.

Just clear the ECU again to get rid of the cell.

Drive it for a few cycles and she will be fine.

If you have tooo........ keep your foot on the gas when you stop.

No problem here.. move along....
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Old Mar 2, 2010 | 06:26 AM
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Car idles a little better now It wont turn off if i back out of a parking spot but as soon as i hit highway speeds and let of the gas it turns off. Seems like its getting A little better though Slowly. Havent had time or money to get it looked at.

Cleaning the throttle body wouldnt be a DIY would it? Sounds Very technical
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Old Mar 2, 2010 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Razz1
OMG!

The volkswagon owner got it correct.

IT's the ECU re-learning. Car always acts like this after a flash or clearing.

Just clear the ECU again to get rid of the cell.

Drive it for a few cycles and she will be fine.

If you have tooo........ keep your foot on the gas when you stop.

No problem here.. move along....
You may be right for all I know, but I wouldn't expect this to be the case. Designing a system that allows the car to stall for days after a re-flash would be a terrible liability. What if someone stalls in an intersection, or in the middle of railroad tracks? Stalling is unsafe, no two ways about it. Any ECU smart enough to "learn" has got to be "smart" enough to keep the engine from stalling at idle.
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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 03:37 AM
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WOOO WHOOO!

well for almost 2 weeks car was still dying out on me. Seemed like the whole relearning thing
wasnt the problem, so i went out bought some throttle body cleaner and went at it. Hour later-
Car is back to normal

just wished i did it sooner
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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 04:10 AM
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So the tech at the stealer ship was right classic good to hear you got your car back on the road. I was going to say the CAT was clogged
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Old Mar 17, 2010 | 01:02 PM
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Glad that the suggestion worked. Like I noted earlier, the dealership that I went to just sprayed the hell out it with the TB cleaner. Mine is still running fine more than 15K miles later. Sometimes the simple fix is what works.
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