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Old Jun 10, 2013 | 04:20 PM
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I can't find any difference between the 420 and 440, FAL website states they both are rated at 2500cfm, and are the same price.

Does anyone know what the difference is besides "maybe" different cfm ratings?

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420's are puller fans. 440's are pusher fans. I went with 490's.
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Old Jun 10, 2013 | 04:58 PM
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You can reverse them for push or pull IIRC from the instructions. You just flip the blade and swap the fan wires. the model numbers of the fans are a PIA, everyone has them listed all F'd up.

http://automotive.flex-a-lite.com/in...-instructions/

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Old Jun 11, 2013 | 01:54 AM
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Does anyone know what the OEM fans CFM rating is compared to the FAL fans?
Would be interesting to know how much more air is being pulled through with these FAL fans.
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Old Jun 11, 2013 | 02:50 AM
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Don't really see a fan upgrade as necessary, unless you are overheating in traffic ......................
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Old Jun 11, 2013 | 08:24 AM
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One of mine died, so I saw the need.

9k, I wasn't sure if yours were reverseable since I don't have them. The flexalite website only stated the 490's as able to do so.

MM stated the oem fans pump out 2800ish cfms. Altho I find that hard to believe.
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Old Jun 11, 2013 | 09:14 AM
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Yeah I think the claim about the OEM fans flow is BS. I tried to find actual data on that and I could not. As you know, once you install these you realize they flow way more than the OEM setup does. It is the best cooling mod I have made.

It's not that the factory fans are crappy, it's about cool down time and these cool the engine down faster than the OEM setup does. Also, when you have a thicker core radiator, you need more powa from the fans to pull air thru. The factory rad is very thin, which is good but the fans are designed with that in mind, not a thicker core dual pass unit. I would also say that replacing the fans is not completely necessary but mine had 120,000+ miles on then and were not working as they should. The S2's have a more powerful setup but the OEM fan shroud setup is expensive.

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Old Jun 11, 2013 | 11:28 AM
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Your right about oem being expensive. Cheapest I could find them was right over $500 new. I paid $350 for the FALs
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Old Jun 14, 2013 | 05:04 PM
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For this mod or extra radiator would a pusher or puller fan with best?
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Old Jun 15, 2013 | 04:10 AM
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In the set up shown by the op I would say pusher fans. Puller fans would put the heated air from the condenser into the nose.
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Old Jun 15, 2013 | 04:46 AM
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For the setup shown in the photos, I have used the fans in pusher mode. They are a reversible type fan and can be setup as either pusher or puller.
So they use a little of the incoming cool air to push through the air condenser and out under the car.

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Old Jun 15, 2013 | 07:53 AM
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Pusher vs Puller only dictates which side of the radiator to mount the fans.

Puller, inside the engine bay/Stock
Pusher, outside the engine bay
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Old Jul 7, 2013 | 02:21 AM
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Would changing the orientation of the condensor/radiator 90 degrees so hot air flows down and not into the engine bay be beneficial?
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Old Jul 8, 2013 | 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by RX what?
Would changing the orientation of the condensor/radiator 90 degrees so hot air flows down and not into the engine bay be beneficial?
I'm sure it would have a benefit, but would not be an easy thing to do in an RX8. Might be worth giving it a go though.

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Old Jul 8, 2013 | 01:30 PM
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I'm sure it would have a benefit, but would not be an easy thing to do in an RX8. Might be worth giving it a go though.

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Is there clearance to turn it and pull it forward and fab some brackets? or would you need to go ape **** with a sawzall?
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Old Jul 8, 2013 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by RX what?
Is there clearance to turn it and pull it forward and fab some brackets? or would you need to go ape **** with a sawzall?
I would think you would have to have a custom radiator made, as well as fab up brackets to make it fit, and then you would have to deal with the A/C condenser as well - ie new A/C lines and possibly a custom condenser. Definitely a big job, but it could be done.
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Old Jul 9, 2013 | 07:48 AM
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Stock rad will be to tall, it is done a lot with different swaps.
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Old Jul 9, 2013 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Carbon8
Stock rad will be to tall, it is done a lot with different swaps.
Too tall even at a 45 degree angle?
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Old Jul 9, 2013 | 01:21 PM
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Its already at a 45 degree angle, what exactly are you asking?

Its to tall to mount at a 90
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Old Jul 9, 2013 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Carbon8
Its already at a 45 degree angle, what exactly are you asking?

Its to tall to mount at a 90
Yes I know it's at 45 degrees. What I'm saying is why would it be too tall or need a custom radiator if all you do is rotate it on its horizontal axis so that it is in an upward angle and not a downward angle like it is stock.
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Old Jul 9, 2013 | 09:45 PM
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Turning the stock radiator to fit like that.
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Old Jul 9, 2013 | 10:42 PM
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I know thats how the 2000 vette's rad is mounted...


I'm a little confused on how this is a better setup than our current one... (Isn't it the same set up? Just flopped?)
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Old Jul 9, 2013 | 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 1.3_LittersOfFurry
I know thats how the 2000 vette's rad is mounted...


I'm a little confused on how this is a better setup than our current one... (Isn't it the same set up? Just flopped?)
In the current setup the engine bay is blasted with hot air after it passes the radiator. Could help to direct it downward and not so much into the bay. Might help with intake temperatures....might
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Old Feb 4, 2014 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Rotaman
Ok
Looks like no one has done this modification or is not prepared to comment.
So I went ahead and did this modification myself.
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Smart thinking 99! I love it. Will read some more I think.

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Old Feb 4, 2014 | 09:07 AM
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PLEASE don't quote a HUGE string of images just to add a one liner of text.
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Old Feb 4, 2014 | 09:22 AM
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ITs a useless mod.
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Keep personal comments to yourself. That post is 8 months old anyway.
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