Mizu Cooling Solutions Rad/Fan Pack install
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Yeah the Koyo is not really any better than the OEM IMO but the nipple won't break off, that is for sure. But I am sure the OEM is plastic for a reason.
Yeah, and now I'm reading on the Koyo radiator "May require modification due to increased core thickness.". That sounds like fun...
The only reason I want to upgrade is to get away from the plastic. Car is never tracked. (Maybe one day, for fun.)
I guess I would get a good solid 6 years or so out a new OEM one.
Now I'm more undecided than ever...
The only reason I want to upgrade is to get away from the plastic. Car is never tracked. (Maybe one day, for fun.)
I guess I would get a good solid 6 years or so out a new OEM one.
Now I'm more undecided than ever...
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It may not fit perfect but you will make it work, it is pretty obvious when you get in there. But buy some proper large square foaming to seal it up nice.
They wouldn't be less but the fans would run less.
If your amp draw is higher than the factory fans the alternator will work slightly harder. If the alternator is working harder the engine will work harder to keep the idle up.
With everything energy related there is always a trade off, the idea is to find out where you want to be most efficient. Remember Energy cannot be created or destroyed only transferred.
Now in your case, if the fans are pulling more heat off the rad than the extra load is causing you wont see any increase. It is effectively balancing the extra load. If they aren't pulling enough heat off you will see a slight increase in coolant temps which would cause the fans to run more often.
Theres always a break even point... Example, if you had one 80 amp 3000 cfm fan the engine would eventually overheat due to the increased load not being compensated for.
So if you had fans that flowed more air than stock while pulling less amps, they would run less. Reducing fuel consumption/load on the system.
Its not like 30 gallons of gas, its very minimal amounts.
If your amp draw is higher than the factory fans the alternator will work slightly harder. If the alternator is working harder the engine will work harder to keep the idle up.
With everything energy related there is always a trade off, the idea is to find out where you want to be most efficient. Remember Energy cannot be created or destroyed only transferred.
Now in your case, if the fans are pulling more heat off the rad than the extra load is causing you wont see any increase. It is effectively balancing the extra load. If they aren't pulling enough heat off you will see a slight increase in coolant temps which would cause the fans to run more often.
Theres always a break even point... Example, if you had one 80 amp 3000 cfm fan the engine would eventually overheat due to the increased load not being compensated for.
So if you had fans that flowed more air than stock while pulling less amps, they would run less. Reducing fuel consumption/load on the system.
Its not like 30 gallons of gas, its very minimal amounts.
I never knew a single RCH could be split into so many tiny strands.
Congratulations.
I'm assuming the little "clips" (one blade on each fan) are for balancing the fan and I should not remove them?
My only last question is mounting the fans to the rad. I can get 2 of the brackets on the driver side to work, but not on the passenger side. Should I just use those "universal" mounting zip tie things. Sorry I forget the correct terminology, It's basically a large zip tie with square ends, you pass them thru the rad and the mounting hole of the fan shroud.
My only last question is mounting the fans to the rad. I can get 2 of the brackets on the driver side to work, but not on the passenger side. Should I just use those "universal" mounting zip tie things. Sorry I forget the correct terminology, It's basically a large zip tie with square ends, you pass them thru the rad and the mounting hole of the fan shroud.
I'm assuming the little "clips" (one blade on each fan) are for balancing the fan and I should not remove them?
My only last question is mounting the fans to the rad. I can get 2 of the brackets on the driver side to work, but not on the passenger side. Should I just use those "universal" mounting zip tie things. Sorry I forget the correct terminology, It's basically a large zip tie with square ends, you pass them thru the rad and the mounting hole of the fan shroud.
My only last question is mounting the fans to the rad. I can get 2 of the brackets on the driver side to work, but not on the passenger side. Should I just use those "universal" mounting zip tie things. Sorry I forget the correct terminology, It's basically a large zip tie with square ends, you pass them thru the rad and the mounting hole of the fan shroud.
My blades had no clip things. No need to use the brackets. I used metal rad pin mounts. The metal ones are not super easy to find but i just did not trust the plastic ones.
I figured I would do it at my parents place since I wanna do a bunch of other stuff at the same time, plus I'll probably be doing it Wednesday / Thursday. I'd gladly take the help though.
OKay, well I have styrofoam and regular foam, whatever you want to use. You can grab it whenever. I may be in kenner at the mall or something and drop it off for ya!! I won't get any texts as I got my phone wet and it doesn't work right.
Just finished installing it!
Can't wait to hit some summer traffic to she how she does. Sounds like a damn tornado under there when on high!
Thanks for all the info everyone. Took about 6 hours solo with cool down time.
(btw, as usual with my luck they only had one roll of black foam left, so the other 2 were white. I used the black for the bottom.)
Can't wait to hit some summer traffic to she how she does. Sounds like a damn tornado under there when on high!
Thanks for all the info everyone. Took about 6 hours solo with cool down time.
(btw, as usual with my luck they only had one roll of black foam left, so the other 2 were white. I used the black for the bottom.)
Update:
Did some torture driving....
Dash reading 95*F AMB
Fans are set 186/188/194 (30mph)
Sustained High speed/load driving; A/C On - 205*F, A/C Off - 198*F
Heavy Stop-N-Go traffic (Aggressive Driving); A/C On - 201*F, A/C Off - 194*F
Light Driving, Light Traffic; A/C On - 192*F, A/C Off - 186*F
I am satisfied, bring on the heat.
Dash reading 95*F AMB
Fans are set 186/188/194 (30mph)
Sustained High speed/load driving; A/C On - 205*F, A/C Off - 198*F
Heavy Stop-N-Go traffic (Aggressive Driving); A/C On - 201*F, A/C Off - 194*F
Light Driving, Light Traffic; A/C On - 192*F, A/C Off - 186*F
I am satisfied, bring on the heat.
Right behind you!!!!!!!!!
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Good write-up the pics are great! One question though, I am having a problem finding which wires go to which wires. I have read (through exhaustive searching) that wire colors are not always the same. I seem to have the same wire colors as you do(coming from the harness and off the fans) which wires go with the red and black wires off the harness? The only thing I have managed to scrounge up says that the red from the harness is actually a ground.
