MC2 Metal Conditioner impressions
05-28-2015, 10:37 PM
#51
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I mean those test results are good and all......... But who knows how truthful the results are or how any of those results relate to an in engine environment.
I mean demonstrations like this look cool and all but how the stuff reacts to different formulations of engine oil in and engine at 200F degrees for a few thousand miles is a whole other thing all together.
I mean demonstrations like this look cool and all but how the stuff reacts to different formulations of engine oil in and engine at 200F degrees for a few thousand miles is a whole other thing all together.
05-29-2015, 09:29 AM
#52
I think the test results do sound more legit than the OP's account. I'm tempted to test it out for a couple thousand miles and do a UOA, but maybe in the girlfriendmobile or a lawnmower or something. Maybe I too can knock a couple of dashes off the ole coolant temperature gauge :D
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05-29-2015, 09:53 AM
#53
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I tend to never trust anything that comes from the people who are selling a product. I would be curious to send a sample of this stuff to blackstone without telling them what it is and see what they say.
02-20-2021, 06:20 AM
#54
40 yrs.
First off, calm the F down. Second, you have offered no evidence to support a thing you have said about this product other than your personal opinion. Butt dynos and feelings are not an accurate way to test a product. It has nothing to with Mazda, do you think because we own RX-8's that is all we own or drive? Come on man, wake up.
There are a million products like this and 99% of the time when they are tested in a scientific manner, they don't do jack **** or worse they actually cause damage.
And I know a lot of engineers and like any other profession, some are useless and some are knowledgeable and good at what they do. And these two guy are selling the product so of course they will say whatever they need to say in order to sell their product. It's not like they are two unbiased independent engineers giving an opinion.
I mean some of your claims are just silly and you don't have to be a mechanical engineer or a chemical engineer to understand why.
There are a million products like this and 99% of the time when they are tested in a scientific manner, they don't do jack **** or worse they actually cause damage.
And I know a lot of engineers and like any other profession, some are useless and some are knowledgeable and good at what they do. And these two guy are selling the product so of course they will say whatever they need to say in order to sell their product. It's not like they are two unbiased independent engineers giving an opinion.
I mean some of your claims are just silly and you don't have to be a mechanical engineer or a chemical engineer to understand why.
02-20-2021, 06:50 AM
#55
I have been using MC2 or Mulit-lube for 40 yrs. They reduce friction thats all. Reducing friction reduces wear and heat. What is the cause of metal failure heat and friction. I use MC2 now because of the good service the provide. I could give you dozens of examples of curing over heating and wear problems over the 40 yrs. I have used it. One example is I was over the maintance shop that had 119 pieces of equipment. They had an average of replacing 4 engins and transmissions. I convinced the owners to use a product that is almort the same as MC2. In the next 6 yrs not one engine or transmission was replaced. I know it works.from my 40 yr. experience.with it
02-20-2021, 09:06 AM
#56
That's great. I assume you've also used it in your rotary for some time and found it has positive effects and no negative effects on the cat or oil injection system in an engine relevant to this forum? And didn't just sign up to make these 2 posts promoting a product?
02-20-2021, 12:36 PM
#57
That's great. I assume you've also used it in your rotary for some time and found it has positive effects and no negative effects on the cat or oil injection system in an engine relevant to this forum? And didn't just sign up to make these 2 posts promoting a product?
02-20-2021, 01:02 PM
#58
circutracer1511 I have used this product for maybe 5 yrs. now and.It works great. I first use much the same back about 40 yrs ago. there is a friction reducing element that they all use in different carriers. It will not increase horsepower.it reduces the friction that frees up power that you can feel. Reducing friction also reduces heat. In most vehicle you will have drive more than 5 miles for it to reach operating temp. I put it in 2 cycle motors with no problems.
02-20-2021, 02:05 PM
#59
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Enough Trolling....Thread locked.
BTW: When I was as Service Adviser @ a local Mazda Dealership in the 90's, Wynns (additives) rep did a live demo with mechanics and myself
of these friction modifiers / additives with a small electric drive motor with hardened steel pressure pin and a renewable small steel
bearing collar that would spin, put the pressure pin on a spinning dry collar the collar would soon cut out, throw collar away and replace with
a new one, this time add normal engine oil (mineral back then) the collar would obviously last much longer (about 4 mins), next up the oil additive on a new
collar, after 10 spinning minutes no wear at all.
https://www.wynns.net.au/
So like a good boy I put engine oil flush in most customers cars (before service) and got a commission, was $9.95 retail a bottle back then, I got a buck...
BTW: When I was as Service Adviser @ a local Mazda Dealership in the 90's, Wynns (additives) rep did a live demo with mechanics and myself
of these friction modifiers / additives with a small electric drive motor with hardened steel pressure pin and a renewable small steel
bearing collar that would spin, put the pressure pin on a spinning dry collar the collar would soon cut out, throw collar away and replace with
a new one, this time add normal engine oil (mineral back then) the collar would obviously last much longer (about 4 mins), next up the oil additive on a new
collar, after 10 spinning minutes no wear at all.
https://www.wynns.net.au/
So like a good boy I put engine oil flush in most customers cars (before service) and got a commission, was $9.95 retail a bottle back then, I got a buck...
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