BHR Ignition purchased
12-03-2012, 08:11 PM
#1
Hexrx
Thread Starter
BHR Ignition purchased
Well, I finally found enough money to buy the BHR Ignition system, I was quite sad to pay the 500$ but according to everyone and their mom's I will not be disappointed. I hope so!
Power to you Charles, you managed to convince me to buy it.
So why have you not bought the BHR Ignition?
Power to you Charles, you managed to convince me to buy it.
So why have you not bought the BHR Ignition?
12-04-2012, 11:32 AM
#3
SARX Legend
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I can't think of any reason not to buy it. I mean even if you only plan on keeping the car for a year or so you will still get at least 75% of your money back if you sell the kit later on. I have had mine for a few years now 
12-04-2012, 02:21 PM
#4
Hexrx
Thread Starter
@Charles, Sounds great! This is Nick.
@9K, That is one of the many reasons I bought it, but I do not plan on selling this car in the foreseeable future. Though I do need to find a way to pull out door dings; Previous own had obtained a few.
@9K, That is one of the many reasons I bought it, but I do not plan on selling this car in the foreseeable future. Though I do need to find a way to pull out door dings; Previous own had obtained a few.
12-09-2012, 03:18 PM
#5
I've had the BHR ignition system in my car for a few months and it's worth every penny. There is a noticable improvement in power delivery and idle. It's much smoother on both counts. The installation was pretty easy but take your time with it. In all, it's one of the best mods I've done.
12-09-2012, 03:36 PM
#6
I can .
The old coil they used had inferior performance at startup due to the fact that dwell for the stock coil is too little to properly charge the BHR coil . A properly set dwell table via a Cobb tune fixes that , but most people wouldn't have that.
This is not conjecture but a proven FACT . Several people i know have had worse than stock starting performance after fitting these coils (on stock dwell)
Charles has stated that the new coil used these days is somehow different - can't comment on that.
The old coil they used had inferior performance at startup due to the fact that dwell for the stock coil is too little to properly charge the BHR coil . A properly set dwell table via a Cobb tune fixes that , but most people wouldn't have that.
This is not conjecture but a proven FACT . Several people i know have had worse than stock starting performance after fitting these coils (on stock dwell)
Charles has stated that the new coil used these days is somehow different - can't comment on that.
Last edited by Brettus; 12-09-2012 at 05:47 PM.
12-10-2012, 12:01 AM
#14
The main reason I bought them though was because of resale value and the longevity claimed by the manufacturer. I basically got them for peace of mind :-P After all the horror stories of failed cats taking out engines due to a less than optimal ignition system it just seemed like a good investment.
As far as a noticeable difference though power wise there was none. But we are after all talking about a n/a engine tuned to basically the max from the factory lol
12-10-2012, 01:52 AM
#16
I agree lol I bought into the hype and was not impressed. I've had them in my car for a while now and literally haven't noticed any difference. If nothing else I noticed a worse idle.
The main reason I bought them though was because of resale value and the longevity claimed by the manufacturer. I basically got them for peace of mind :-P After all the horror stories of failed cats taking out engines due to a less than optimal ignition system it just seemed like a good investment.
As far as a noticeable difference though power wise there was none. But we are after all talking about a n/a engine tuned to basically the max from the factory lol
The main reason I bought them though was because of resale value and the longevity claimed by the manufacturer. I basically got them for peace of mind :-P After all the horror stories of failed cats taking out engines due to a less than optimal ignition system it just seemed like a good investment.
As far as a noticeable difference though power wise there was none. But we are after all talking about a n/a engine tuned to basically the max from the factory lol
12-10-2012, 01:57 AM
#17
Well, S1 and S2 shares the SAME coil, Which is A. B is something just for NA market it seems, and it causes CEL on JDM 8. so Japan has been using A the whole time.
when Mazda released Spirit-R the coils are also updated to Revision C. Which works with ALL RX-8 world wide and it seems that they improved the igniter inside(which is what fails inside the coil really) and changed the rubber material from Black to Clear.
Non-OE coils are also somewhat updated. Just not so sure if it's the exact same spec as the newest spec from Mazda's Revision C. but hey, Lifetime warranty, Why not ?
when Mazda released Spirit-R the coils are also updated to Revision C. Which works with ALL RX-8 world wide and it seems that they improved the igniter inside(which is what fails inside the coil really) and changed the rubber material from Black to Clear.
Non-OE coils are also somewhat updated. Just not so sure if it's the exact same spec as the newest spec from Mazda's Revision C. but hey, Lifetime warranty, Why not ?
12-10-2012, 02:13 AM
#18
Un-Registered User
Well, S1 and S2 shares the SAME coil, Which is A. B is something just for NA market it seems, and it causes CEL on JDM 8. so Japan has been using A the whole time.
when Mazda released Spirit-R the coils are also updated to Revision C. Which works with ALL RX-8 world wide and it seems that they improved the igniter inside(which is what fails inside the coil really) and changed the rubber material from Black to Clear.
Non-OE coils are also somewhat updated. Just not so sure if it's the exact same spec as the newest spec from Mazda's Revision C. but hey, Lifetime warranty, Why not ?
when Mazda released Spirit-R the coils are also updated to Revision C. Which works with ALL RX-8 world wide and it seems that they improved the igniter inside(which is what fails inside the coil really) and changed the rubber material from Black to Clear.
Non-OE coils are also somewhat updated. Just not so sure if it's the exact same spec as the newest spec from Mazda's Revision C. but hey, Lifetime warranty, Why not ?
So your saying C Coils don't cause a CEL on JDM S1's?
12-10-2012, 09:24 AM
#19
Hexrx
Thread Starter
12-10-2012, 09:53 AM
#20
I need your old fucntioning stock coils
which was also brought to the forums attention by TeamRX8 in the past
As a side note ... i have been running "similar" coils to what BHR has and have no complaints.
which was also brought to the forums attention by TeamRX8 in the past
As a side note ... i have been running "similar" coils to what BHR has and have no complaints.
12-10-2012, 11:55 AM
#21
Once the engine is started the 585s perform well enough on stock dwell settings .
Last edited by Brettus; 12-10-2012 at 12:00 PM.
12-10-2012, 02:59 PM
#22
Hexrx
Thread Starter
Well I installed them last night, they fit perfect and the install went great.
I did however have to remove the engine hoist mounting plate as it interfered with the second coil but I also did not bend the bracket.
Going from burnt coils with a little over 50k miles on them, my mistake these are expensive, I did notice a more solid start as apposed to the old ones, also I no longer back fire as much on start up?
I don't know if it is considered back firing, but the popping as the car warms up. (catless)
Any way, as long as I do not have to replace these any time soon I am a happy camper. Idle is smooth and it feels smooth throughout the rpm range.
Thank you Charles.
Oh and thanks for the monkey, lol.
I did however have to remove the engine hoist mounting plate as it interfered with the second coil but I also did not bend the bracket.
Going from burnt coils with a little over 50k miles on them, my mistake these are expensive, I did notice a more solid start as apposed to the old ones, also I no longer back fire as much on start up?
I don't know if it is considered back firing, but the popping as the car warms up. (catless)
Any way, as long as I do not have to replace these any time soon I am a happy camper. Idle is smooth and it feels smooth throughout the rpm range.
Thank you Charles.
Oh and thanks for the monkey, lol.
12-10-2012, 07:04 PM
#23
Yeah man my coils only had around 10k on them so i wasn't going from a faulty set to new. I even thought about not changing plugs to be 100% sure of the results but I installed new plugs anyway :-P I would recommend them at this point though for someone that wants added peace of mind, to spend less money in the long run, and have a product that the manufacturer will stand behind.
12-10-2012, 08:40 PM
#25
If you do your own wrenching, stay away from dealer parts, and carry around a spare coil set (to avoid the temptation of limping along with a bad coil and ruin the cat), then BHR is not the cheapest option. But then driving a 20 year old Camry is a lot cheaper transport than an RX-8.
Since my OEM coils were rather new when I went to the BHR ones, I did not notice much, if any, difference in performance. The "debate" about dwell may matter to perfectionists or those with boosted or heavily-modded engines, but matters little to most. In fact, one can argue that the BHR coils with the stock dwell, besides being more robust with much better heat-dissapating qualities, are being charged to well below their limits and thus should last approximately forever.
That, to me, is their best feature. There are certainly other ways to upgrade over OEM. However, there are no such upgrades that have been real-world proven by a couple thousand users to be effective and reliable. On the way home at 2 am on the Lodge, passing through the worst parts of Detroit with a lady friend in the passenger seat, I feel no inclination to be a beta-tester for a coil pack that's a few bucks cheaper or even (possibly) a little better.
Since my OEM coils were rather new when I went to the BHR ones, I did not notice much, if any, difference in performance. The "debate" about dwell may matter to perfectionists or those with boosted or heavily-modded engines, but matters little to most. In fact, one can argue that the BHR coils with the stock dwell, besides being more robust with much better heat-dissapating qualities, are being charged to well below their limits and thus should last approximately forever.
That, to me, is their best feature. There are certainly other ways to upgrade over OEM. However, there are no such upgrades that have been real-world proven by a couple thousand users to be effective and reliable. On the way home at 2 am on the Lodge, passing through the worst parts of Detroit with a lady friend in the passenger seat, I feel no inclination to be a beta-tester for a coil pack that's a few bucks cheaper or even (possibly) a little better.