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Yep, they are 'GENUINE' Mazda Coils (Supplied originally by Mazda Japan) with a '9U' label (for US market) stuck over the top of the MMC's Japan real part number, you can just see this part number under in RR's pic.
Anyway, to be sure, if they are not boxed like this /\ ,or you get the later C revision Coil from Mazmart N3H1-18-100C, don't buy them from eBay or anyone else.
Frankly, it is suppliers of knock offs which gives the brand a bad name.
Edit:, If you look really closely you can actually see the C part in RR's first pic just after the -9U part of # sticker, which goes to confirm that MNAO are supplying the latest C Coils in C revision boxes with the old part number stuck over-top.
Which also confirms what a member (in USA) said to me some months ago on here that they were the C coils in B-9U boxes.
There should be N3H1 18 100C also stamped into side of these OEM coil bodies also.
Mazda-OEM coils have a small dot / tip on the body; non-OEM miss this characteristic.
See picture:
This one is absolutely true as well. It's the last observation that I was keeping to myself (Not sure why). Maybe I did not want the imitators to have all the information. This one is the quickest observable way to spot the real vs fake.
Should have done my research first - looks like we bought the same deal on Ebay, too late to return and I saw this thread shortly after being fitted. However I paid a garage to fix them and they said the coils were legitimate, despite the coils looking the same as yours in the pics above. The car runs amazing since they've been fitted (same sparks and leads too). I even connected my OBDII just to be sure and all good. I guess it could be down to the fitting?
It is the medium to longer term reliability of these cheap eBay knock off Coils for RX-8, basically IF they are dirt cheap then they ARE knock offs and not OEM...and just not worth the risk and ALL the associated issues it can bring to your car like, engine, reliability and being stranded somewhere on side of road...
Anyone who can sell a new unused set (of 4) under $170.00 (in USA) has to be knock offs.
Fake (non-OEM-Mazda) coils presented as "Ignition Coil OEM N3H1 18 100C For Mazda RX-8"..........
........can be purchased in China with a minimum order of 200 pieces for US $8.46~9.54 / Piece, fob plus a little amount of shipping cost.........
These are very clever copies.....the trading cy's offering these fake coils are also clever since they do offer these coils as "Ignition coil OEM" for Mazda RX-8 and not as "Ignition coil OEM-Mazda" which would be a violation, whereas they offer the sellers an alibi to use the name "Ignition Coil OEM" (so "OEM-CM") CM= Chinese Manufacturer.
Ignition Coil OEM N3H1 18 100C For Mazda RX-8
Product Price: FOB ningbo US $8.46~9.54 / Piece
Quote Based on: 200 Pieces
Date Quoted: 20/10/2013
Payment Terms: T/T
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Also like the Chinese made clones of VCI (VCM) modules (pass through) for flashing and programming, every one are rubbish, most only do half of what the OE versions do, and in some cases have actually corrupted CAN and or car modules, even the odd circuit board meltdown.
Even latest ETAS (Bosch) VCM II (Ford and Mazda) has already been cloned and offered for sale on the cheap.
The OEM's use parts made in China and assembled in Germany, but parts but are made to an engineering and technical standard set by the OEM.
This one is absolutely true as well. It's the last observation that I was keeping to myself (Not sure why). Maybe I did not want the imitators to have all the information. This one is the quickest observable way to spot the real vs fake.
ALL OEM RX-8 COILS HAVE THIS BIRTHMARK.
Paul.
Just to add to this, I'm running "aftermarket" coils that have the "birthmark". Maybe they were remanufactured from OEM units. Either way they are not OEM Mazda coils, but they have that little mark on them.
Just to add to this, I'm running "aftermarket" coils that have the "birthmark". Maybe they were remanufactured from OEM units. Either way they are not OEM Mazda coils, but they have that little mark on them.
Thanks,
it was a matter of time to see the counterfeited ones with a "birthmark"; well this is a first step on the long road to match the Mazda-OEM quality..........
Thanks,
it was a matter of time to see the counterfeited ones with a "birthmark"; well this is a first step on the long road to match the Mazda-OEM quality..........
Yeah, gotta very careful around the net for some stuff. I know that I almost bought a cheap ignition system off of Amazon. Lol. I'm glad I didn't. I just went the BHR route.
Added question to the fake coils. While perusing ebay I noticed what are listed as "upgraded" RX8 coils listed. They have a yellow body on them and go for about double what the chinese coils are going for. Is there anything to these or are they just yellow colored knockoffs?
Quick question guys. Looking at buying revision C coils from mazmart, wondering why the latest and greatest are from Japan only, and are actually 30 bucks cheaper than the revision B ones supplied to the states here?
What are the differences in this update? Anyone know??
Just wondering why we never got them but Japan did.
Quick question guys. Looking at buying revision C coils from mazmart, wondering why the latest and greatest are from Japan only, and are actually 30 bucks cheaper than the revision B ones supplied to the states here?
What are the differences in this update? Anyone know??
Just wondering why we never got them but Japan did.
Practically all in the US from Mazda dealers are the same as I have from Mazda Japan. As mentioned by Ash8 earlier in this thread Mazda North America labels them as N3H1-18-100B9U. This is a part that they subsidized, so the price is cheaper than it was originally.
From Mazmart, it carries the label C (N3h1-18-100C) on those that I get directly from Japan and I sell them even cheaper. I try to keep them in stock but our site says "Expect up to 14 days". S0, someone paying the lower price on my site for the slow shipping version C could actually have them leave same day in many cases since I try to stock them.
I bought myself some STARK ignition coils from Germany for 25 buck each. Will see how long they last. They offer a 3 year warranty anyway, and they confirmed I can claim warranty as soon as they start to malfunction.
Just replaced my coils/wires/plugs and I got the coils linked below. Really great deal, $53 for all four even though they get you for $24 on shipping. I didn't realize how bad my old ones were because the 8 feels amazing now. Seriously, I've been driving with that just got laid smile this whole week. Hopefully these will carry me over until I get a set of BHRs.
It's quite easy to check ignition coils too. I've run Chinese coils on other engines (not RX8) and you'll soon notice if one is not working properly with a multimeter.
09-24-2013, 02:29 PM
