Looking for a EDUCATED engine conversation...
03-21-2011, 07:50 PM
#26
Why not do what (whats his name? Invasion?) did? He beefed up his AT Tranny from Level 10 and then got boosted? (Right? I forget). With the Cobb AP you can raise your redline as well...
Oh and OP I was 16 when I got first 8. It was a hand me down, and it was a AT. I was not satisfied with the Automatic part and it being a 4 port. So I sold it and got me my 6 speed... Night and day difference, sports cars shouldnt be made with a AT transmission, it takes the heart and soul out of the car, plus its not as fun...
Oh and OP I was 16 when I got first 8. It was a hand me down, and it was a AT. I was not satisfied with the Automatic part and it being a 4 port. So I sold it and got me my 6 speed... Night and day difference, sports cars shouldnt be made with a AT transmission, it takes the heart and soul out of the car, plus its not as fun...
Last edited by WTBRotary!; 03-21-2011 at 07:52 PM.
). After all it eats about the same amount gas.
08-01-2011, 05:38 PM
#28
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thats what im wanting to know here... im aware of this, so i wouldnt HAVE to swap the engine if i didnt have the money or desire to right now. (cause when it becomes a project car in the future, whos to say ill keep it a 13b? lol)
If I keep my 4 port, and drop a 6 speed on it...
i can keep my drive shaft, would i need to get a ecu from a USA/North America rx8 or one from Europe? and i would have to change my gauge cluster, right? or could i get away with the one i have now knowing when i have to shift and whatnot (~8krpm) i know and dont care about the gear position display and crap. and then i'd have to buy a clutch kit and all clutch parts, a second oil cooler. and get the "pcm" and the abs pump and other stuff from the same car the ecu came from (as explained in the conversion topic). would that be it? cause that could cost me a lot less than the "full conversion" with a engine and all.
If I keep my 4 port, and drop a 6 speed on it...
i can keep my drive shaft, would i need to get a ecu from a USA/North America rx8 or one from Europe? and i would have to change my gauge cluster, right? or could i get away with the one i have now knowing when i have to shift and whatnot (~8krpm) i know and dont care about the gear position display and crap. and then i'd have to buy a clutch kit and all clutch parts, a second oil cooler. and get the "pcm" and the abs pump and other stuff from the same car the ecu came from (as explained in the conversion topic). would that be it? cause that could cost me a lot less than the "full conversion" with a engine and all.
Auto to manual swap might as well be an LS1 or 3 rotor swap for the amount of work involved...
08-01-2011, 08:33 PM
#31
If horsepower numbers and performance seriously bothers you, you should just trade it in for a 6port manual or maybe even upgrade to a newer Rx-8.
Let's say you pay a few grand on upgrading your exhaust, headers, etc. You would barely even have the same amount of horsepower of a 6port manual while loosing the entire fun of driving a stick and being able to hear your rotary scream and all that money could have been invested in purchasing a 6speed or put the money away to fix the car when maintenance is involved.
Let's say you pay a few grand on upgrading your exhaust, headers, etc. You would barely even have the same amount of horsepower of a 6port manual while loosing the entire fun of driving a stick and being able to hear your rotary scream and all that money could have been invested in purchasing a 6speed or put the money away to fix the car when maintenance is involved.
08-01-2011, 08:46 PM
#32
While I'm sure the OP appreciates the relative civility of the answers that have been posted here so far, I think first post would have been better served if it had been voiced something like this:
I was just given my first car - a 4-port, 4-speed automatic RX-8.
While I will, no doubt, be spending quite a bit of time over the next several months researching and compiling information about this car and what it is and isn't capable of, I must admit that years of "pre-programming" by video games and movies has left me already itching to make the car something that it is not.
So, I was hoping that the members of this forum might immediately point me in the right direction to information about making the right decision for my next project car.
While I will, no doubt, be spending quite a bit of time over the next several months researching and compiling information about this car and what it is and isn't capable of, I must admit that years of "pre-programming" by video games and movies has left me already itching to make the car something that it is not.
So, I was hoping that the members of this forum might immediately point me in the right direction to information about making the right decision for my next project car.
08-02-2011, 10:43 AM
#37
nope, and for you as a vender, to run a person down like that, not cool.
a simple yes, no, yes, maybe, going to cost you , would have been better.
The 8's might not be the easist to do things with, but its still not out of the question. OP was asking what it would take and what he could still use, not some type of response that gets him to stop dreaming with video games and movie watching and go buy a civic, because thats pritty much what you said.
08-02-2011, 10:58 AM
#38
so, what would you suggest the op do, in his case.
08-02-2011, 12:02 PM
#39
oh boy, must get my anti-vender suit on.
if hes got the money, simple answer would be to trade up.
if hes got the time and money and wants to learn the ropes of auto mechanics, start hunting down a parts car for the swap, downside to that is, the AT engines are not a simple bolt on to a MT trans, the center and rear irons are not the same, and going to a 6p engine, thats a bit different work around.
plan fact is, its going to cost a good chunk, from what i've gathers besides a parts car, i have $1800 in parts, the rest im waiting to find a parts car to get the rest.
it can be done, but it isn't cheap. but at least i didn't say go find a different project.
if hes got the money, simple answer would be to trade up.
if hes got the time and money and wants to learn the ropes of auto mechanics, start hunting down a parts car for the swap, downside to that is, the AT engines are not a simple bolt on to a MT trans, the center and rear irons are not the same, and going to a 6p engine, thats a bit different work around.
plan fact is, its going to cost a good chunk, from what i've gathers besides a parts car, i have $1800 in parts, the rest im waiting to find a parts car to get the rest.
it can be done, but it isn't cheap. but at least i didn't say go find a different project.
08-02-2011, 12:33 PM
#41
oh i dont? 8 years racing my awd talon, 4 years of honda wheel to wheel racing, and doing a few swaps with 2jz's.. yeah i dont have any experience.
It still can be done. Its going to cost him, is the biggest issue out of it. Sure i would of traded up to do my swap, but finding a Nordic Green 6spd in my area to trade up with out shipping cost would be great...
to the OP sorry for the mess.
It still can be done. Its going to cost him, is the biggest issue out of it. Sure i would of traded up to do my swap, but finding a Nordic Green 6spd in my area to trade up with out shipping cost would be great...
to the OP sorry for the mess.
08-02-2011, 01:06 PM
#43
oh boy, must get my anti-vender suit on.
if hes got the money, simple answer would be to trade up.
if hes got the time and money and wants to learn the ropes of auto mechanics, start hunting down a parts car for the swap, downside to that is, the AT engines are not a simple bolt on to a MT trans, the center and rear irons are not the same, and going to a 6p engine, thats a bit different work around.
plan fact is, its going to cost a good chunk, from what i've gathers besides a parts car, i have $1800 in parts, the rest im waiting to find a parts car to get the rest.
it can be done, but it isn't cheap. but at least i didn't say go find a different project.
if hes got the money, simple answer would be to trade up.
if hes got the time and money and wants to learn the ropes of auto mechanics, start hunting down a parts car for the swap, downside to that is, the AT engines are not a simple bolt on to a MT trans, the center and rear irons are not the same, and going to a 6p engine, thats a bit different work around.
plan fact is, its going to cost a good chunk, from what i've gathers besides a parts car, i have $1800 in parts, the rest im waiting to find a parts car to get the rest.
it can be done, but it isn't cheap. but at least i didn't say go find a different project.
What is an "anti-vendor" suit?
Last edited by Charles R. Hill; 08-02-2011 at 01:08 PM.
08-02-2011, 01:08 PM
#44
Second, CAN and SHOULD are totally different realms and, if you intend to advise someone from an informed position, your consideration should include not advising them to undertake an endeavor that is not worthwhile.
You can do just about anything if your skills or pockets are deep, including putting lipstick on a pig.
I think it is the same thing as a KoolAid filter.
Unfortunately, they are usually just a rag dipped in Febreeze, so they just "re-flavor" the KoolAid.
Last edited by MazdaManiac; 08-02-2011 at 01:11 PM.
