Scanne

Hi all,

Just wondering anyone here has Supercharged they 6AT with the 6AT map from the ECU?

Am thinking of purchasing a kit, but there's not many choices.


Thanks for your feedback

Atilla

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Supercharged? - no one on this board to my knowledge

there is a 4AT that's Supercharged - he should be chiming in here in a little bit

just outta curiousity, what kit were you looking at?

sgrenesis

i think he must be looking at the blitz system but not too sure if its suitable for the 6AT

HiTMaNN

Why supercharge? IMO Turboing your car is better for the Autos because of the low end power it will be including the added torque. Take a look at www.mazdamaniac.com he has a great Turbo kit for under 6k. Or you can get a Used Greddy Turbo kit and buy his upgrade IMO it is the best bang for the buck on the market.

sgrenesis

the blitz system is running on roots and it will give more torque rather than horsepower compared to the TC.
Here is singapore there is a traffic light almost every 400m to 1k, so the SC will be more suited for driving situations over here.

mysql101

As long as you understand there isn't a SC kit available for the RX-8 that can produce anywhere near the torque than the mazdamaniac turbo does.

In case you aren't clear - the TC produces more torque and more horse power.

N rider89

plus the blitz system is anyway

sosonic

Per equal horsepower, Autos have more torque.

There are disadvantages and advantages to both.

Trying to pretend turbo is better in all aspects from install, performance, consistency, reliability, etc... is being deceptive.

Supercharger or turbo, should be up to the individual buyer.

ocrapitzleon

i wanted to get Greddy Turbo + a mixture of parts and run with Sammy's setup
but never got to there. just decided to move on to new car

good luck though if you do decide to do SC or Turbo
pleas post

mysql101

What the heck are you rambling on? The OP wanted the most torque. He clearly doesn't understand that a supercharger doesn't make more torque. In fact, all available superchargers for the RX-8 put down pitiful amounts of torque. I haven't seen anything over 200 tq. The OP then said there's a lot of stop and go traffic. Again, the supercharger is going to generate the least amount of torque in normal driving range as I can get more torque from my turbo from 3,000 rpm to 8,000 rpm than the Pettit (which you so love). This guy isn't in the USA and I have a feeling the blitz SC is the one that makes maybe 240 whp, so the torque numbers are going to be much lower yet.

sosonic

The OP did not mention torque, by the way. That came later.

A supercharger can be good in stop and go traffic, the response would be instant and like stock but more powerful.

"X" number is relative. The "proof" will be 0-60 to 1/4 mile times, putting the car on the track, customer satisfaction, problems, etc...

mysql101

When you're dropping serious coin on something, claiming to be slightly better than stock isn't attractive when there are alternatives that are much more powerful.

sosonic

True, but then "proof" is going to be 0-60, 1/4 mile, track times, reliability, etc...

mysql101

LOL. You are hopeless. Proof that it makes more hp and torque under the curve is clearly seen in the dyno results.

Trying to argue otherwise shows how biased you are.

mdw1000

I wonder if the Blitz kit is cheaper in Singapore than it is here, due to the US Dollar being worth so little now?

Phil's 8

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I stayed out of this one on purpose - I knew the turbo fanbos would be chiming in with all their "word of wisdom". Mine is a 4port a/t and I love the s/c but abhor the tuning. Having driven both I prefer the s/c. Can't help a 6port with maps as mine are 4port.

mysql101

it is all in the tune.

People on youtube and streetfire brag about killing a turbo rx8 and assume all turboed rx8s are the same. The fact is, you are looking at hitting 240 whp to well over 350 whp.

Even my car alone at 6 psi vs 8 psi with intx was night and day. 9 psi with an upgraded turbo added another 40 torque! Using 11 to 14 psi will yeild even more significant numbers.

Phil's 8

iTrader: (3)

We agree on tuning, I have the best tuner (in my opinion) working on my car but he is having trouble with the certain aspects of the x. Now that he is working on the flash, I will expect that he will not quit until it is as good as it can be.

Scanne

yea, both SC and TC have their pros and cons.
But from my understanding, TCs have more maintainence problems compared to SCs. Seems like there is no 6AT that is charged.

Oh well, lemme know if any TCs and SCs that has ready map for 6ATs.
i cant bare to leave my KS retuned ECU in my closet.

Cheeros

mysql

In a way you're right. With the journal bearing turbo that the greddy kit ships with, you're going to have problems usually within a year. If you install a high quality turbo, it should be plug and play and no issues for many years.

We just happen to have a ton of greddy owners since the full turbo kit is about $3,000.

Atilla

iTrader: (1)

had to ask...

what (or which company) would you define as being a high quality turbo? -i've been led to believe Mazsport is one (if not THE one) of the best - however due to cost, it kinda factors it out (for some) - so what would you say is still high quality?

Scanne

Hi MYsql, do you mean that i should find the right tuner/workshop to tune the greddy? Or do you mean the greddy's turbo is just another normal turbo that gives problems? Hehe

mysql

Mazsport kit is a high quality kit, but I'm talking about a turbo, which is a specific part within a kit.

For the most part, a turbo kit is nothing more than a bunch of hollow piping, with a turbocharger in the middle of it. As long as you have a quality turbo (ball bearing, water cooled, properly balanced), there is not much that can go wrong with the turbo setup. And as long as you car is properly tuned, your engine will be fine too.

A quality turbo usually runs $1000 - $1800 alone.



Neither, the specific turbo used in the greddy kit is horrible. It's not even worth installing because you'll have to deal with removing and either fixing or replacing it after a short while.

Scanne

OK I got what u meant. Honestly, my concern here over in singapore, is the tuner. I can buy a good turbo but if there isnt any good tuner = as good as a lousy turbo.

So any 6ATs out there that has been charged? Am looking for the map for ecu before i dare to commit to a charger.